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1. Quadcentruo said on April 23, 2010, 07:24:37 PM (-07:00)

Giratina
3,684 posts

This is just to state the standard rules for competitive battling which have to be followed at Victory Road.
So, if your going to battle someone, please refer to this thread beforehand.

Rule 1: No Ubers (unless it's an Ubers battle).
Uber's being found here: http://www.smogon.com/dp/tiers/uber


Rule 2: OHKO Clause. Although inaccurate, it's annoying... and I have seen my friend get hit by a Sheer Cold before when battling.

Rule 3: Sleep Clause. Give the person a fighting chance! No 2 Pokemon on the other person's team is allowed to be asleep at the same time. Exception: If the person used rest on two or more Pokemon, in that case, you cannot put other Pokemon to sleep.

Rule 4: Evasion Clause. Skilled trainers don't need evasion boosts to win... why do you think Koga always loses?

Rule 5: Species Clause. You cannot have 2 similar Pokémon in your team.

Rule 6: Self-Destruct clause. You blow up your last Pokemon, your just a terrible person. You lose anyway.

Rule 7: Soul-Dew Clause. Latios is banned in normal battles (being in the Uber tier)...
but Latias isn't. Still, no Soul-Dew on it.

Rule 8: No Hax Items. Brightpowder, Focus Band, King's Rock, Lax Incense, Quick Claw, Razor Fang, Razor Claw, Scope Lens, Lansat Berry, Stick and Lucky Punch are all banned. Actually not really an official rule, this one is mostly optional.

Rule 9: No hacks! No hacked Pokemon. We don't want Spirtomb with Wonder Guard now do we?

Remember: these are the standard rules that have to be followed in any formal battle at Victory Road (tournament battle, gym battle etc.).
Some people, including Gym Leaders, might add their own non-standard rules to their threads. These need to be followed only in that person's specific thread and not outside.

Enjoy the battles!


Thanks to Shadow and The Spirit of Time for editing the rules and clauses!

2. Sunny said on April 23, 2010, 08:11:24 PM (-07:00)

Keldeo
1,136 posts

I think belly drum + aqua jet is banned because its broken beyond belief not because it has 2 different egg moves.

But I agree about that critical hit ratio thing. Darach from battle frontier uses a razor claw empoleon and crits every other turn. >3>

Alsooo some people down at smogon are starting to figure out how to manipulate crits. O_o if you thought they were annoying before wait til people can start forcing them. .-.

3. The Spirit of Time said on April 24, 2010, 03:02:49 AM (-07:00)

Rayquaza
3,934 posts

I think we can add all the rules needed, lock it, and then stick it. That's a better option. I will work on adding all the rules to your post and making it popular.

4. Shadow said on April 24, 2010, 03:21:16 AM (-07:00)

Giratina
3,209 posts

I added the Species Clause, since it is one of the standard clauses in competitive battles.

Comments
-I have never heard of the "No 2 Egg-moves on a single Pokémon" clause, especially that it is not standard. Therefore, I think it should be removed.
-Instead of writing "Critical hit item ratio", you could simply write "No hax/luck items". Those items are: Brightpowder, Focus Band, King's Rock, Lax Incense, Quick Claw, Razor Fang, Razor Claw, Scope Lens, Lansat Berry, Stick and Lucky Punch.

5. The Spirit of Time said on April 24, 2010, 03:41:45 AM (-07:00)

Rayquaza
3,934 posts

Shadow and I edited the post to add more rules and make it clearer. I think sticking it should be appropriate now.

6. Quadcentruo said on April 24, 2010, 08:34:20 AM (-07:00)

Giratina
3,684 posts

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shadow View Post
I added the Species Clause, since it is one of the standard clauses in competitive battles.

Comments
-I have never heard of the "No 2 Egg-moves on a single Pokémon" clause, especially that it is not standard. Therefore, I think it should be removed.
-Instead of writing "Critical hit item ratio", you could simply write "No hax/luck items". Those items are: Brightpowder, Focus Band, King's Rock, Lax Incense, Quick Claw, Razor Fang, Razor Claw, Scope Lens, Lansat Berry, Stick and Lucky Punch.
Thanks Shadow and Spirit Of Time for editing.
I didn't add Species Clause because I usually don't see a lot of people who use the same Pokemon over and over again.

And the "No 2 egg-moves", I couldn't think of what to call something like Azumarill with Belly drum and Aqua jet.

And thanks for adding the No hax/luck items,
I didn't know all of the items.

7. Shadow said on April 24, 2010, 08:41:43 AM (-07:00)

Giratina
3,209 posts

Quote:
Originally Posted by Quadcentruo View Post
Thanks Shadow and Spirit Of Time for editing.
You're welcome.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Quadcentruo View Post
I didn't add Species Clause because I usually don't see a lot of people who use the same Pokemon over and over again.
Well, it's still among the standard clauses for competitive battles, so it should be included.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Quadcentruo View Post
And the "No 2 egg-moves", I couldn't think of what to call something like Azumarill with Belly drum and Aqua jet.
This is just a special situation, and so doesn't need a whole clause for it.

8. Alakazamaster said on April 24, 2010, 09:17:22 AM (-07:00)

Kyurem
2,366 posts

You got the Evasion Clause incorrect. Moves like Sand Attack and Smokescreen ARE still allowed, despite how under-used they are. This is because you can switch out of said accuracy losses, but if an opponent is using Double Team or Minimize you can't get them out without Roaring or Whirlwinding, and those could easily miss. Perish Song is also an option, but that is a move that is quite uncommon competitively.

9. Shadow said on April 24, 2010, 09:27:23 AM (-07:00)

Giratina
3,209 posts

Quote:
Originally Posted by Alakazamaster View Post
You got the Evasion Clause incorrect. Moves like Sand Attack and Smokescreen ARE still allowed, despite how under-used they are. This is because you can switch out of said accuracy losses, but if an opponent is using Double Team or Minimize you can't get them out without Roaring or Whirlwinding, and those could easily miss.
Oh, thanks for notifying us about that.
*Edits first post*

10. Quadcentruo said on June 2, 2010, 12:03:07 PM (-07:00)

Giratina
3,684 posts

*Dusts off thread*
This just in, Latias has been deemed Uber. :O
And Salamence is a "suspect"
It's all right here under "Bye Bye Laitas!"

11. Ningamer said on June 2, 2010, 01:45:42 PM (-07:00)

Giratina
3,415 posts

Quote:
Originally Posted by Quadcentruo View Post
And Salamence is a "suspect"
CURSES!

And... erm... SkarmBliss clause?

12. Quadcentruo said on July 20, 2010, 04:54:19 PM (-07:00)

Giratina
3,684 posts

This just in:
Salamence is now Uber.

Repeat, Salamence is banned!

13. The Spirit of Time said on July 21, 2010, 05:29:31 AM (-07:00)

Rayquaza
3,934 posts

I want to clarify that SkarmBless isn't a standard clause. It is a clause made by people rather than Smogon.

14. Shreyas said on December 17, 2010, 10:25:56 PM (-08:00)

Joltik
11 posts

Do you count Sav'd pokemon as hacked?

note: I do.

15. Shadow said on December 18, 2010, 12:12:36 AM (-08:00)

Giratina
3,209 posts

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shreyas View Post
Do you count Sav'd pokemon as hacked?

note: I do.
Yes, they are considered as hacked Pokémon and so are not allowed.

16. DashArmy said on December 18, 2010, 08:35:00 AM (-08:00)

Regigigas
936 posts

So you mean any battle I have here with a person at VR has to follow these rules?

17. Alakazamaster said on December 18, 2010, 09:00:45 AM (-08:00)

Kyurem
2,366 posts

Quote:
Originally Posted by AshArmy View Post
So you mean any battle I have here with a person at VR has to follow these rules?
Unless stated otherwise, yes. Serious competitive battles follow these rules.

18. Quadcentruo said on December 18, 2010, 02:53:55 PM (-08:00)

Giratina
3,684 posts

Quote:
Originally Posted by AshArmy View Post
So you mean any battle I have here with a person at VR has to follow these rules?
Well, these are the standard rules, so yes. Rules can be changed, in a way, from person to person. But no matter what rules they add, every person must follow these basic rules.

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