What about Drizzletoed?

I just hope by the time march 6th comes around and these games out to USA and others that dont have it, I just hope that the tiers list dont come out right when the games come out, cause i really want to try garchomp and some others in OU before they are moved to another tier. And yes if I had to I would go on Pokemon online and try them there if that comes to it.

After looking through discussion of Gen. 4 tiers from years ago and how completely incorrect they sometimes were, I want to remind everyone to ABUSE AS MUCH AS YOU CAN WHILE YOU CAN.

Aerodactyl, the speedy and powerful Pokemon used to be in UU. Heck, this was at the same time people thought Shedinja and Articuno should stay in OU after they were dropped down to UU. So yeah, tier lists take a while to truly develop, but its still fun to play with what you get!

EDIT: More old-thread looking. Tyranitar used to be in Ubers, Deoxys-L in OU, and Smeargle was UU. Als, people thought Mesprit should be in Ubers. XD Oh god, the things people come up with!

What I don't get is why they're trying to get Manaphy out of the Uber teir despite Tail Glow raising Special Attack by 3 stages now.

Wasn't Tail Glow the reason why Manaphy was uber in the first place?

I have been following some people's nominations, and I have to say that most people are nominating Kingdra, Reuniclus and Landorus to be in Ubers. Of course, Excadrill, Manaphy and Drizzle are on the list as well.

The voting will start by the 24th of Jan.

Many different opinions, actually. Most people are saying that Landorus and Kingdra are too strong in OU, especially Landorous which is a lot of pain.
Reinuiclus is easy to get +6 Sp. Atk and Sp. Def with Calm Mind due to its ability.

Double-Post for update

Round 2 is done for now and the results are clear:

What about Drizzletoed and Landorus?

The metagame is currently heading in the right direction. Manaphy is definitely broken with Tail Glow and Rest + Hydration under permanent Rain, so Ubers is the perfect tier for it. Excadrill can be regarded as a slightly powerful, Sandstorm counterpart of Kingdra, and so belongs to the OU tier. Latios + Latias have become less threatening in this generation, while Reuniclus is not yet Uber material, so placing them all in the OU tier is the best decision. Obviously, Deoxys-N deserves to be put nowhere but in Ubers.

Now, I'm actually really happy that Manaphy is banned. Perhaps this might make Rain seem less broken to the testers, as Manaphy was the single biggest threat in it. The others are still strong, but they are much more manageable. If, however, noobs start to make stupid Rain teams due to Drizzle, then I would rather have Drizzle banned so that people don't regard me as a noob, too. Nevertheless, I'm curious to see how the new testing round will go.

smogon says in gen 5 that drizzle and swiftswim are banned on the same team, why is this? Also does this mean for ubers too.

ok i see, well thats sounds fair that way i dont have to worry about getting destroyed under 5mins in a battle. I had this happen on pokemon online with a rain and sandstorm team...That stupid steel/ground type mole thing

I'm hoping Mandibuzz might be useful in my hail team. Looking forward to testing out vanilluxe purely because he will annoy the hell out of people ahaaa

Im going to try a drought team with ninetails, i got lots of pokemon to use for such a team

Is it me, or is Ferrothorn the most overused Pokemon ever? I can't watch a battle without somebody using one. He's good, there's no denying it, but good lord... He's everywhere.

Surely the new amount of Fighting Pokemon will be great counters?

Well, it happened again! Garchomp has been banned from OU play completely, so we won't be seeing him anymore.

Kray, Ditto, and I were going through some suspect ubers suggestions. What the hell was Sawsbuck doing in there? I keep thinking maybe it has something to do with Sap Sipper, but Sawsbuck doesn't really have a solid STAB physical grass move besides its signature move, the 70 acc. Horn Leech.

It sucks that garchomp is out of OU before i got to really use him. Now i got to think of smeone else to use from the dragon-type.

FFFFFFFFFFF I need a Sawsbuck.

Another interesting thing we were looking at was Solosis as a viable Uber Trick Room Endeavor slave. The concept certainly interested me, although I'm more used to Sturdyers as an overall Endeavor tactic now.

I hate when smogon slams these things in our faces without anyone knowing whats going on unless your a member of the forum. Like recently I was about to use garchomp and then the day i was going to use him for the first time in b/w he gets banned from OU. Heck next im going to use say dexoys-D and might get banned from OU too or something.

I do look but i can never find the right stuff on there. I think i sorta get lost on that forum. (I forgot im a member of forum )

So in terms of metagame, how many people expect to see any Wide Guard/Quick Guard use? Wide Guard seems lethal in the hands of someone who can anticipate well in double/triples.

Just wait till more DW pokes to use there abilitys. Archeops i think gets one.

I thought i seen archeops DW ability on PO. Must have miss read. But alakazams magic guard will beast up most of the metagame someday.

I got a queston that i heard rumors about that Pikachu with lightball is banned to ubers? Im not sure if its true or not but i just traded a lightball from someone and they said this, but i checked smogon and nothing on there says if it is or not.

For those of you interested, the strategy dex for Gen. 5 is now available on Smogon, providing useful movesets all in one convenient location! Not every Pokemon has a moveset up, though, but more commonly used OU, UU, and Uber Pokemon are up, and even a few Limbo ones!

Have any of y'all built teams using this?

Dang that page is huge! So how does this site work?