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1. Masterge77 said on July 11, 2010, 07:53:45 AM (-07:00)

Charizard
141 posts

This is an emergency.

The government is planning on doing something to stop piracy and illegal downloads.

And by doing that, they will be taking away ALL OF YOUR INTERNET PRIVACY.

They will watch everything you download, EVERYTHING
They will make sure nothing is against the "Government Policy"
They will document EVERYTHING you do online. You will have no privacy at all

This is very urgent and wrong. To help stop this, PLEASE SPREAD THE WORD TO EVERYONE YOU KNOW.

Post a DeviantART journal, a news article, put it on facebook, myspace, twitter, youtube, and any other website you use.

WE MUST STOP THIS. WE MUST HAVE PRIVACY!

UPDATE:

This is ACTA who is going to stop piracy, WHICH ISN'T A BAD DEAL BUT HERES THE CATCH.

THIS IS NOT ABOUT PIRACY.
THIS IS ABOUT PRIVACY.

Everyone on a computer will be monitored of their progress. No more privacy at all for anybody. NOPE.

- ISPS will now watch what you download, and tattle on you if you download a music track/ any data / rapidshares / torrents etc.
- ISPS will tattle on you, when you do anything which goes against "Governments policy".
- ISPS will be able to document and store EVERYTHING you do online. nothing will ever be private again

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Potential border searches are covered by the "Border Measures" proposal of ACTA. As of February 2009 and according to University of Ottawa law professor Michael Geist there is significant disagreement among countries on this topic: "Some countries are seeking the minimum rules, the removal of certain clauses, and a specific provision to put to rest fears of iPod searching customs officials by excluding personal baggage that contains goods of a non-commercial nature. The U.S. is pushing for broad provisions that cover import, export, and in-transit shipments."[42] Newspaper reported that the draft agreement would empower security officials at airports and other international borders to conduct random ex officio searches of laptops, MP3 players, and cellular phones for illegally downloaded or "ripped" music and movies. Travellers with infringing content would be subject to a fine and may have their devices confiscated or destroyed.

--

"Canadian officials travel to Guadalajara, Mexico this week to resume negotiations on the still-secret Anti-Counterfeiting Trade Agreement. The discussion is likely to turn to the prospect of supporting three strikes and you’re out systems that could result in thousands of people losing access to the Internet based on three allegations of copyright infringement. Leaked ACTA documents indicate that encouraging the adoption of three-strikes - often euphemistically described as “graduated response” for the way Internet providers gradually send increasingly threatening warnings to subscribers - has been proposed for possible inclusion in the treaty."

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No. I know nobody is going to want this.

So what can you do?

You can start by spreading the word. This isn't some chain mail, this is serious.

They're going to monitor EVERYONE AND THEIR PRIVACY WILL BE GONE. And I don't want to log into my computer and see that someone is watching me.

UPDATE:

From This Page:

Quote:
Originally Posted by Anti ACTA Webpage
"ACTA is an abbreviation for the Anti-Counterfeiting Trade Agreement. It is an International Treaty that will be pushed to implementation by 2010. It has been discussed in secret since October 2007, and has been leaked by government officials who were against the unconstitutional, ineffective, inhumane, and unlawful nature of such a treaty.

Countries affected by this treaty include but are not limited to:

Australia, Canada, the European Union, Japan, The Republic of Korea, Mexico, Morocco, New Zealand, Singapore, Switzerland and the United States

The official goal of the agreement is the international enforcement of strong intellectual property rights. Some of our concerns include the vague, amorphous manner in which “counterfeit” is used in many of the public comments. These uses run the gamut from undisputedly illegal products to expressly legitimate generic products. We believe that ACTA holds the potential to restrict innovation, consumer choice and freedom on the Internet by it's many restrictions and its changes to the legal front on copyrights.

The scope of ACTA includes counterfeit goods, generic medicines, Internet censorship, irrational new downloading laws and what is termed "piracy over the Internet". ACTA is a treaty, which would overcome many court precedents in your own country that defines consumer rights as to "fair use" and would remove any limitations on the application of intellectual property laws. This means that ACTA would overrule any laws in your own country, and deal harsher, unfair and ineffective punishment to anyone suspected of piracy, without a trial in court. If you are just suspected of listening to songs illegally, or uploading anything illegal, you may be dealt with harshly, against the laws of your own country.

ACTA also makes Internet Service Providers legally responsible for any of it's users downloaded content. ACTA gives recording industries more rights to enforce copyrights and officers of the law the right to search any digital device for copyrighted material. Did you pay for the songs on your iPod?" (if you paid for the songs but ripped them from a CD you bought and put them on your ipod it would be illegal) "Under the new law, that instantly classifies you as a criminal, and the same classification as murderers and rapists. You will get a criminal record. Even if you do not download songs onto your iPod, you will feel the effects as millions, possibly billions of dollars in taxpayer's money will be poured in to catch these "criminals", money that can be used to save lives.

Part of ACTA deems anyone accused of copyright infringement to "compensate" for the loss in profit to recording companies. They want harsher punishments for these criminals. These recording companies, such as UMG, earn upwards of $1 billion in 2009. However, the RIAA (Recording Industries Association of America) recently sued a 12 year old girl for downloading, as well as many other people. They are seeking $150 000 per song, on allofmp3.com[1]. How much harsher will they go?

Isn't there a point where they must stop?"
And it only gets worse, loss of privacy, higher internet bills to pay for that loss of privacy, random checks of your hardware to make sure you've paid for everything on it. And protection of things like large prescription drug companies international monopolies.

HOWEVER- the final draft of the bill will be released to the public before the politicans "decide to sign it" ( http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE67J5A220100821 ) so contact your congressman, spread the word to protect our human rights and freedoms before they are lost for good.

This is against the American Constitution in every possible way, this is infringing on our rights, what they are doing is illegal and immoral

Thaat's just a part of what they are doing, to read more on it, click on the link on the top of the page to read the whole story

How can we stop this? You can start by spreading the word!!!!! Post this on FaceBook, twitter it to your friends, make a DeviantART journal, ANYTHING to keep our privacy!!!!! Contact your local Congressman, download these propaganda fliers against ACTA, print them out, and hand them out to people, or sign the anti ACTA petition

This is not spam, this is not a chain letter, this is a serious situation, our internet lives are at stake here!!!!!

2. Ningamer said on July 11, 2010, 07:55:42 AM (-07:00)

Giratina
3,415 posts

* Ningamer senses chainmail.

3. Masterge77 said on July 11, 2010, 08:09:38 AM (-07:00)

Charizard
141 posts

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ningamer View Post
* Ningamer senses chainmail.
This is not spam or chainmail, THIS IS AN EMERGENCY, This is going against our first amendment, the government is honestly doing this to us, they are taking away our rights of internet privacy.....

4. Magmaster12 said on July 11, 2010, 08:25:39 AM (-07:00)

Rayquaza
4,872 posts

Yay someone will finally watch my youtube video

Wouldn't be the first time the government has taken away our privacy, I just don't get why though.

5. Masterge77 said on July 11, 2010, 11:50:36 AM (-07:00)

Charizard
141 posts

UPDATE:

This is ACTA who is going to stop piracy, WHICH ISN'T A BAD DEAL BUT HERES THE CATCH.

THIS IS NOT ABOUT PIRACY.
THIS IS ABOUT PRIVACY.

Everyone on a computer will be monitored of their progress. No more privacy at all for anybody. NOPE.

- ISPS will now watch what you download, and tattle on you if you download a music track/ any data / rapidshares / torrents etc.
- ISPS will tattle on you, when you do anything which goes against "Governments policy".
- ISPS will be able to document and store EVERYTHING you do online. nothing will ever be private again

--

Potential border searches are covered by the "Border Measures" proposal of ACTA. As of February 2009 and according to University of Ottawa law professor Michael Geist there is significant disagreement among countries on this topic: "Some countries are seeking the minimum rules, the removal of certain clauses, and a specific provision to put to rest fears of iPod searching customs officials by excluding personal baggage that contains goods of a non-commercial nature. The U.S. is pushing for broad provisions that cover import, export, and in-transit shipments."[42] Newspaper reported that the draft agreement would empower security officials at airports and other international borders to conduct random ex officio searches of laptops, MP3 players, and cellular phones for illegally downloaded or "ripped" music and movies. Travellers with infringing content would be subject to a fine and may have their devices confiscated or destroyed.

--

"Canadian officials travel to Guadalajara, Mexico this week to resume negotiations on the still-secret Anti-Counterfeiting Trade Agreement. The discussion is likely to turn to the prospect of supporting three strikes and you’re out systems that could result in thousands of people losing access to the Internet based on three allegations of copyright infringement. Leaked ACTA documents indicate that encouraging the adoption of three-strikes - often euphemistically described as “graduated response” for the way Internet providers gradually send increasingly threatening warnings to subscribers - has been proposed for possible inclusion in the treaty."

--

No. I know nobody is going to want this.

So what can you do?

You can start by spreading the word. This isn't some chain mail, this is serious.

They're going to monitor EVERYONE AND THEIR PRIVACY WILL BE GONE. And I don't want to log into my computer and see that someone is watching me.

6. Alakazamaster said on July 11, 2010, 02:19:40 PM (-07:00)

Kyurem
2,366 posts

Hang on a a second... we're NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO BREAK THE LAW ANYMORE?! How unjust! :O

Oh, and if you are somehow worried about privacy being broken, the government does not care what websites ONE teenager goes to when they have the entire United States on document. The Government also wont' change something based on chain mail, either.

7. GrassPokemonFTW said on July 11, 2010, 03:59:33 PM (-07:00)

Kyurem
2,222 posts

That's not good...when do they plan on carrying this out?

8. piexing said on July 11, 2010, 04:50:03 PM (-07:00)

Volcarona
597 posts

Can't ISPs already see everything you do online? :L

9. Jaredvcxz said on July 11, 2010, 06:00:11 PM (-07:00)

Giratina
3,185 posts

They've been talking about this for years...

10. Aries said on July 11, 2010, 08:19:55 PM (-07:00)

Zoroark
194 posts

CRAP! Now I can't steal programs anymore. T_T JK
But seriously, what if I'm looking at something private? They don't have this right.

11. DashArmy said on July 11, 2010, 08:51:38 PM (-07:00)

Regigigas
936 posts

Hey!
HEY YOU
Yeah Windstream, I'm talkin' to you. Listen up real good.

Heed    
YOU SUCK.  No seriously, you do.  Your service sucks.  Why do I even pay for this?

12. FreezeWarp said on July 11, 2010, 09:01:28 PM (-07:00)

Kyurem
2,186 posts

Sigh... To set the record straight, this is untrue and mostly lies. ArsTechnica has several stories that provide a good background on this with good continuing coverage.

The U.S. has no interest on spying on you. They have never spied on you unless there was a real reason to: are you a terrorist? The WIPO Treaties, Anti-Counterfeiting Trade Agreement, and others are for, and only for, the interest of copyright holders, most notably the RIAA. While I personally feel these are wrong, they are for the malicious monetary gain of the RIAA and similar parties, not in any way for that of the United States.

Three Strikes Laws/Graduated Response has been employed in countries like France, and more notably the EU (I'm not as current on the topic there, though), but no bill has even been proposed to initiate a graduated response policy in the U.S., and though the copyright holders may want it, the U.S. "Copyright Czar" has made clear no policy will ever exist.

The Bottom Line: A three strikes law will not be initiated anytime soon in the U.S., and The Anti-Counterfeiting Trade Agreement (ACTA) does not employ it.

13. GrassPokemonFTW said on July 11, 2010, 09:50:30 PM (-07:00)

Kyurem
2,222 posts

Quote:
Originally Posted by FreezeWarp View Post
Sigh... To set the record straight, this is untrue and mostly lies. ArsTechnica has several stories that provide a good background on this with good continuing coverage.

The U.S. has no interest on spying on you. They have never spied on you unless there was a real reason to: are you a terrorist? The WIPO Treaties, Anti-Counterfeiting Trade Agreement, and others are for, and only for, the interest of copyright holders, most notably the RIAA. While I personally feel these are wrong, they are for the malicious monetary gain of the RIAA and similar parties, not in any way for that of the United States.

Three Strikes Laws/Graduated Response has been employed in countries like France, and more notably the EU (I'm not as current on the topic there, though), but no bill has even been proposed to initiate a graduated response policy in the U.S., and though the copyright holders may want it, the U.S. "Copyright Czar" has made clear no policy will ever exist.

The Bottom Line: A three strikes law will not be initiated anytime soon in the U.S., and The Anti-Counterfeiting Trade Agreement (ACTA) does not employ it.
Well, I guess that depends. You make a good case, but, Masterge, where did you get the information from?

14. FreezeWarp said on July 11, 2010, 10:22:21 PM (-07:00)

Kyurem
2,186 posts

Quote:
Originally Posted by GrassPokemonFTW View Post
Well, I guess that depends. You make a good case, but, Masterge, where did you get the information from?
(My information comes from arstechnica.com and official U.S. policy reports.)

15. Velociraptor78 said on July 12, 2010, 01:33:40 AM (-07:00)

Regigigas
803 posts

So they're gonna see me with my pornographic materials? OH EFF NO THEY CAN'T DO THIS!
Oh wait I have Google Chrome Incognito so they can't watch me! Take that Government! You guys are way too srs bsnz lighten up srsly!

...But yes, this is just a chain email.

16. emperorempoleon2 said on July 12, 2010, 01:58:52 PM (-07:00)

Haxorus
439 posts

Either this = Chain or Obama was impeache and my dad's president now.

And I don't remember seeing "P[CENSORSHIP OF NAMES FTW]z for 2010" signs before.

17. piexing said on July 12, 2010, 06:20:31 PM (-07:00)

Volcarona
597 posts

Quote:
Originally Posted by Velociraptor78 View Post
Oh wait I have Google Chrome Incognito so they can't watch me! Take that Government!

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18. FreezeWarp said on July 12, 2010, 07:47:03 PM (-07:00)

Kyurem
2,186 posts

People standing behind you is also a risk

This is, of course, true of IE's and Firefox's porn modes as well. The only truly secure way is with SSH (https://)... Ironically 7-chan employs this.

19. Masterge77 said on September 1, 2010, 09:45:35 AM (-07:00)

Charizard
141 posts

UPDATE:

From This Page:

Quote:
Originally Posted by Anti ACTA Webpage
"ACTA is an abbreviation for the Anti-Counterfeiting Trade Agreement. It is an International Treaty that will be pushed to implementation by 2010. It has been discussed in secret since October 2007, and has been leaked by government officials who were against the unconstitutional, ineffective, inhumane, and unlawful nature of such a treaty.

Countries affected by this treaty include but are not limited to:

Australia, Canada, the European Union, Japan, The Republic of Korea, Mexico, Morocco, New Zealand, Singapore, Switzerland and the United States

The official goal of the agreement is the international enforcement of strong intellectual property rights. Some of our concerns include the vague, amorphous manner in which “counterfeit” is used in many of the public comments. These uses run the gamut from undisputedly illegal products to expressly legitimate generic products. We believe that ACTA holds the potential to restrict innovation, consumer choice and freedom on the Internet by it's many restrictions and its changes to the legal front on copyrights.

The scope of ACTA includes counterfeit goods, generic medicines, Internet censorship, irrational new downloading laws and what is termed "piracy over the Internet". ACTA is a treaty, which would overcome many court precedents in your own country that defines consumer rights as to "fair use" and would remove any limitations on the application of intellectual property laws. This means that ACTA would overrule any laws in your own country, and deal harsher, unfair and ineffective punishment to anyone suspected of piracy, without a trial in court. If you are just suspected of listening to songs illegally, or uploading anything illegal, you may be dealt with harshly, against the laws of your own country.

ACTA also makes Internet Service Providers legally responsible for any of it's users downloaded content. ACTA gives recording industries more rights to enforce copyrights and officers of the law the right to search any digital device for copyrighted material. Did you pay for the songs on your iPod?" (if you paid for the songs but ripped them from a CD you bought and put them on your ipod it would be illegal) "Under the new law, that instantly classifies you as a criminal, and the same classification as murderers and rapists. You will get a criminal record. Even if you do not download songs onto your iPod, you will feel the effects as millions, possibly billions of dollars in taxpayer's money will be poured in to catch these "criminals", money that can be used to save lives.

Part of ACTA deems anyone accused of copyright infringement to "compensate" for the loss in profit to recording companies. They want harsher punishments for these criminals. These recording companies, such as UMG, earn upwards of $1 billion in 2009. However, the RIAA (Recording Industries Association of America) recently sued a 12 year old girl for downloading, as well as many other people. They are seeking $150 000 per song, on allofmp3.com[1]. How much harsher will they go?

Isn't there a point where they must stop?"
And it only gets worse, loss of privacy, higher internet bills to pay for that loss of privacy, random checks of your hardware to make sure you've paid for everything on it. And protection of things like large prescription drug companies international monopolies.

HOWEVER- the final draft of the bill will be released to the public before the politicans "decide to sign it" ( http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE67J5A220100821 ) so contact your congressman, spread the word to protect our human rights and freedoms before they are lost for good.

This is against the American Constitution in every possible way, this is infringing on our rights, what they are doing is illegal and immoral

Thaat's just a part of what they are doing, to read more on it, click on the link on the top of the page to read the whole story

How can we stop this? You can start by spreading the word!!!!! Post this on FaceBook, twitter it to your friends, make a DeviantART journal, ANYTHING to keep our privacy!!!!! Contact your local Congressman, download these propaganda fliers against ACTA, print them out, and hand them out to people, or sign the anti ACTA petition

This is not spam, this is not a chain letter, this is a serious situation, our internet lives are at stake here!!!!!

20. Idno58 said on September 1, 2010, 10:15:39 AM (-07:00)

Landorus
1,770 posts

OH, CRAP.
My dad's not gonna like thi- I MEAN
this is completely unreasonable <_< >_>

21. XP said on September 1, 2010, 10:34:00 AM (-07:00)

Mudkip
33 posts

I don't see this as a massive problem. For years and years the government has always been watching you. Anything and everything you have done has been within the eyes of the government. You are never truly alone, you never have been. This is just an example of Big Brother, looking down on you watching your every move. Even to the internet, the place you thought you could hide. Then again, they are already tracking what webpages you are viewing. Remember, once it's done, it can never be un-done.

22. randoguy101 said on September 1, 2010, 03:47:30 PM (-07:00)

Volcarona
688 posts

Wouldn't it be easy to bypass this by using an anonymous proxy?
I mean, all this will do is stop the less clever people from doing anything illegal, and I'm sure /b/ will have an easy get around within the first 5 days the system is up.

23. Jaredvcxz said on September 1, 2010, 04:21:50 PM (-07:00)

Giratina
3,185 posts

Anonymous proxy can't hide you from your isp.

24. Idno58 said on September 1, 2010, 06:08:06 PM (-07:00)

Landorus
1,770 posts

I think this is just an excuse for the Government to watch more pr0n.

25. GuildmasterWigglytuff said on September 1, 2010, 06:19:02 PM (-07:00)

Zoroark
273 posts

I really don't believe this is true, but I'm sceptical. Are you sure this is real?

26. Pwesty said on September 1, 2010, 06:20:49 PM (-07:00)

Charizard
124 posts

It'd be really funny if when the goverment is 'watching' us, they see it, or even see it right now.

27. 11Trident11 said on September 1, 2010, 06:21:43 PM (-07:00)

Haxorus
476 posts

the government can already watch us I don't see why they need to do this...that is if this is real

28. Pwesty said on September 1, 2010, 06:23:15 PM (-07:00)

Charizard
124 posts

I know. I mean, if the goverment watched us much better, there'd always be a man in a black suit at your house ready to stalk you when you want to go on the computer.

29. RK-9 said on September 1, 2010, 06:27:17 PM (-07:00)

Haxorus
492 posts

I'l say this once, I'll say this twice. Chain, mail. Chain, mail.

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