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1. TheRagingTyranitar said on June 13, 2010, 06:43:48 PM (-07:00)

Regigigas
808 posts

If Generation 1 was Generation 5,what would people say?


*Voltorb revealed*

"WTF is this? It is just a Pokeball! Nintendo is running out of ideas!!!I am quitting Pokemon!"

*Electrode revealed*

"...what?!?! It is just a bigger Voltorb! Very original Game Freak,very original..."

*Magnemite revealed*

"It's just a Magnemite which floats...wtf! Gear was sooooooooooo much better than this!"

*Geodude revealed*

"...it's a rock with hands...awesome Game Freak awesome...thanks for ruining Pokemon.I miss the days of Smugleaf..."

*Zubat revealed*

"It's just a blue bat! Very original..."

*Grimer revealed*

"Dude it's a bunch of sludge with a face!"

*Muk revealed*

"Wtf they just made a bigger Grimer! I quit Pokemon **** you guys!

Discuss.

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2. Sableyed said on June 13, 2010, 06:45:59 PM (-07:00)

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*Pikachu Revealed*

"Great, another Pachirisu rip-off."

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3. TheRagingTyranitar said on June 13, 2010, 06:59:48 PM (-07:00)

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808 posts

*Tangela revealed*

"Oh look,now they are ripping off McDonald's characters.GameFreak is losing it..."

*Nidoran revealed*

"WTF? Poison Bunnies? ROFL at GF's attempt to make more Pokemon by making male and female Nidoran different."

*Gastly revealed*

"LOL it looks like a poison of **** that's giving off poison vapors.I'm so witty and outrageous"

*Pidgey revealed*

" 'Pidegey' as in 'Pigeon'? 1st generation did way better with Mamepato.WAY better.This stupid bird doesn't even look like a ****ing pigeon!"

*Mew revealed*

"WTF It's just a floating cat!"

*Jigglypuff revealed*

"It's just another Munna..."

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4. NismoZ said on June 14, 2010, 08:44:02 AM (-07:00)

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Don't forget their reactions to Gen. 5 Pokémon in 1995!
*Giaru revealed*
Oh look, a gear Pokémon! It's soooo original and cool!

5. Cat333Pokémon said on June 18, 2010, 12:41:18 PM (-07:00)

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I must say that I agree with this. Yoshi and I were discussing this more in depth and I actually came up with an idea to make a skit about this and put onto YouTube. It would go something like me playing Black on an old Game Boy as if it was 1998. Unfortunately, this could prove to be a big challenge for several reasons:
1) Almost no music to work with
2) Almost no Pokémon to work with
3) No cards to work with (except printing some fakes I see online)
4) No figures or anything similar to work with

It might be a few months before I/we start, but the idea is to tell people to take off their nostalgia goggles.

Also, topic moved to Older Pokémon Fans.

6. Velociraptor78 said on June 18, 2010, 12:51:10 PM (-07:00)

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*Charmander and its evolutions revealed*
Great, another uber Fire starter. Like we needed it with Infernape and Typhlosion and Blaziken and Giant Fire Pig.

7. Sableyed said on June 19, 2010, 04:29:28 PM (-07:00)

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"Giant Fire Pig"? Don't you mean Boaruption?

8. GreenLiquid said on July 8, 2010, 12:42:43 AM (-07:00)

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Every generation has Pokémon that aren't really that original, including the earlier ones as much as the later ones. I think when people were newer to the franchise, they were eager to look for Pokémon in general, without a whole lot of concern for what they look like. In later generations, people get more cynical and begin to look strictly at the designs, focusing more on what is done wrong than on what is done right. People looking at this generation as the beginnings of Pokémon would see plenty of originality in what is present, simply because there aren't past Pokémon to compare it to as a 'derivative' or a 'clone' design.

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9. Dragiiin123 said on July 8, 2010, 05:36:44 AM (-07:00)

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I agree with this whole heartedly.

10. PatJames said on July 8, 2010, 08:33:07 AM (-07:00)

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cat333Pokémon View Post
but the idea is to tell people to take off their nostalgia goggles.
God yes, I wish people would do this exactly. The first gen pokemon were great, but that doesn't mean all of the other ones are complete garbage

11. Shadow said on July 8, 2010, 08:44:21 AM (-07:00)

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This thread portrays a 100% true fact. And GreenLiquid explains it further quite well.

12. Super Zekrom said on July 8, 2010, 08:50:56 AM (-07:00)

Banned
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Okay if gen.1 and gen.5 changed places who would be the talking Pokemon for team rocket.

13. Ditto616 said on July 8, 2010, 09:27:35 AM (-07:00)

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This point has been brought up before by the artist purplekecleon. Here's the picture; WARNING: A tiny bit of cussing, though we should all be old enough in this thread. Sorry that it's so big.

Embedded image

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14. The Spirit of Time said on July 8, 2010, 11:15:07 AM (-07:00)

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I hate when this happens. They start talking as experts and then, they buy the games. :\

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15. RandyPanda said on July 8, 2010, 12:04:32 PM (-07:00)

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I can't begin to describe in words the amount of awesome that is this thread.

Honestly though. It's the same thing every generation. There are always going to be Pokemon designs that you don't love, but there are going to be enough for you to go through the game with. Don't complain so much about the game and buy it on release date and end up loving it. If worst comes to worst, just use Pokemon from past generations and enjoy the new attacks, animations, and KO'ing these new monsters that you so hate.

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16. Masterge77 said on July 8, 2010, 02:14:14 PM (-07:00)

Charizard
141 posts

Well, if Gen 5 were the 1st generation, then Pikachu wouldn't be the mascot, and what about Eevees evolutions, and all other evolutions and pre-evolutions that were introduced in the later generations........

17. Pichu_theworld_ruler said on July 8, 2010, 11:03:49 PM (-07:00)

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Wait! Umbreon, leafeon, Espeon, and glaceon have a pre-evolution? and it evolves three new different ways?!?

Great, now Ash and Chiramii have this new electric mouse thing called Pikachu? Lame!

And what happened to those 30 Hihidaruma that he caught forever ago...

Pichu Evolves!!!!!!!!!???????!!!!!!!

Pink blob, eh? and It transforms? ...

Well, those were some ideas.

-Pichu

18. alternateshadow300 said on July 9, 2010, 12:23:43 PM (-07:00)

Haxorus
454 posts

What you're saying is you're tired of hearing people complain about the newer Pokémon, right?

19. Ashchangau said on July 9, 2010, 01:14:01 PM (-07:00)

Joltik
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That would be VERY odd! The Anime would certainly have different characters and Pikachu would not be as popular and Team rocket wouldn't either. It would make me sad but that's just my opinion.

20. Yoshi648 said on July 9, 2010, 01:21:26 PM (-07:00)

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Quote:
Originally Posted by alternateshadow300 View Post
What you're saying is you're tired of hearing people complain about the newer Pokémon, right?
Bingo

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21. Charizard98 said on July 9, 2010, 05:22:50 PM (-07:00)

Volcarona
732 posts

*ditto revealed*

Great, a Zorua clone. -_-

*machop revealed"

WHAT THE FU**, LUCARIO WAS MUCH COOLER!

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sprit of Time
I hate when this happens. They start talking as experts and then, they buy the games. :\
^

22. mariothecellist said on July 9, 2010, 07:06:45 PM (-07:00)

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Also, wouldn't the names be getting unoriginal if they were switched?

Piplup- "That's a nice, original name!!!" (Unless I don't know something about that name.)

Squirtle- "A squirting turtle. Nice job Game Freak."

23. Searinox said on September 12, 2010, 05:59:11 AM (-07:00)

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All I know is that Charizard would still be one of those "great, I've been waiting for something like this for a long time!" pokemon for me, just like Reshiram's typing currently is for me.

24. The Tropius of Tropiuses said on September 12, 2010, 07:01:22 AM (-07:00)

Volcarona
660 posts

Zoura would be Ash's first (and face of) pokemon.

25. AnathemA said on September 12, 2010, 07:36:14 AM (-07:00)

Volcarona
521 posts

@Charizard FINALLY, A STARTER THAT ISNT FIRE/FIGHTING

26. .name//Technomancer said on September 12, 2010, 08:11:10 AM (-07:00)

Haxorus
486 posts

...

What the hell is this? A Pokémon that was genetically constructed from the Legendary Event Pokémon? :l

Great. This is just Deoxys in reverse. Thanks Gamefreak. >.<

27. Idno58 said on September 12, 2010, 08:36:25 AM (-07:00)

Landorus
1,770 posts

* Poliwag evos revealed
"WTF they look exactly the same!"

28. Dragiiin123 said on September 13, 2010, 06:55:09 PM (-07:00)

Haxorus
355 posts

Pigeot is just a bigger Pigeotto! ****ing Nintendo!

29. RotomGuy said on September 14, 2010, 10:52:09 PM (-07:00)

Celebi
1,461 posts

*Voltorb revealed*
Oh crud. Tamegatake has been COMPLETELY stolen.

*Zubat revealed*
I'm soooooooooooooo not using the Koromori replacement!

*Larvitar revealed*
What the- it's another Kibago!

*Geodude revealed*
Dangoro was sooooo much better than this! What has Nintendo come to...

30. AnathemA said on September 15, 2010, 03:45:27 AM (-07:00)

Volcarona
521 posts

Whoa.. ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY NEW POKEMON?! Thats it, Nintendo is officially milking the franchise...

31. Mr.378 said on September 15, 2010, 04:38:14 AM (-07:00)

Joltik
12 posts

It would be wierd to see all the originals be last, that's for sure.

32. pokemoneinstein said on September 16, 2010, 05:10:47 PM (-07:00)

Zoroark
279 posts

This thread is very true, though I think it is a bit exaggerated. The way I look at it isn't that the new designs are too lame, and think they're too... un-lame, for lack of a better word. They've got lots of features both physically and in terms of their abilities that you just don't see on the older Pokémon. The simplicity is what I like, quite honestly. Though I must admit, there are some Pokémon that, had they been released in Gen. I or II, I would like a lot more. I can't say I'm unbiased, and I see and agree with the point of this thread, but I can't say that, at least in my case, it's completely true.

33. Quadcentruo said on October 3, 2010, 07:26:50 AM (-07:00)

Giratina
3,684 posts

If Gen 5 and Gen 1 were switched, what would happen to Pokemon Snap?

I don't think people would ragequit Pokemon due to lack of originality, if that were the case, a lot of people would've stopped playing at Diamond/Pearl.

34. LucarioMario said on October 3, 2010, 04:51:54 PM (-07:00)

Volcarona
547 posts

Quote:
Originally Posted by Quadcentruo View Post
If Gen 5 and Gen 1 were switched, what would happen to Pokemon Snap?

I don't think people would ragequit Pokemon due to lack of originality, if that were the case, a lot of people would've stopped playing at Diamond/Pearl.
I agree with this thread, but like Quadcentruo said, I don't think people would take a tiny glance at these Pokemon and decide to quit.

I also wonder what Pokemon would replace Pikachu in the Super Smash Bros. series. Or what would happen to HG/SS and FR/LG.

35. Justjack91 said on October 3, 2010, 08:50:44 PM (-07:00)

Zoroark
289 posts

I miss when there were more legendary Pokemon. Now we only get two.

36. Rainbow Dash said on April 9, 2011, 05:17:43 PM (-07:00)

Linoone
93 posts

WOW! now Umbreon has a pre evolution! This is awesome! And I love the style of these new Pokemon! The realistic style drawing is amazing! And it's telling us the story of red and how he became champion! And it's about time the rival became champion! The music is awesome too! not the best in all areas but it's still great! I can't believe those nastalgic losers who still haven't gotten past gen 1! Although this is going to create more nastalgic loser hipocrits that say that nasalgia can't work both ways...

37. Justjack91 said on April 10, 2011, 11:33:58 PM (-07:00)

Zoroark
289 posts

Quote:
Originally Posted by Epic Umbreon View Post
WOW! now Umbreon has a pre evolution!
Screw that. We have THREE new evolutions that come from this Eevee! I mean, can you think of any other Pokemon like that!? That's friggin amazing!

Although to be honest, I think they're all rip-offs of the three monkey just with one Pokemon.

38. Cat333Pokémon said on April 13, 2011, 12:37:44 PM (-07:00)

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Many thanks to Koolboyman for doing a lot of work with me on this:

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39. Leaftail said on April 13, 2011, 03:06:39 PM (-07:00)

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Quote:
This project will NOT be completed
Embedded image
I wanted to see Striaton City...

Beautiful hack, Kitty!

(Also those cries are so not 8-bit...)

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40. JC said on April 13, 2011, 04:09:42 PM (-07:00)

Keldeo
1,021 posts

Pretty good work, wished there was more but then you guys be making something similar to a game that's already officially released on the DS systems.

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