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Hello folks, it's me again. During the month of June, the tournament will be held using the Pokémon Video Game Championship rules. The link to the rules is found here: http://www.pokemonvgc.com/en/regulations.php
There will be a few things changed though.
I think that's really it though. Post any ideas, dismays or comments, just THIS ISN'T FOR SIGN UP. IF THAT IS THE ONLY THING YOU SAY IN YOUR POST, IT WILL BE DELETED.
Ningamer posted these, so I'll put them here.
You can use any Pokemon aside from:
151 - Mew
251 - Celebi
385 - Jirachi
386 - Deoxys
489 - Phione
490 - Manaphy
491 - Darkrai
492 - Shaymin
493 - Arceus
You can use up to two of these in your team:
150 - Mewtwo
249 - Lugia
250 - Ho-Oh
382 - Kyogre
383 - Groudon
384 - Rayquaza
483 - Dialga
484 - Palkia
487 - Giratina
With that said, now it is time to discuss!
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Cant garchomp be used in any doubles? Like normal battles, i know he cant be used in single battles but uber, so can he be used in any OU double battles? Also maybe i will join this just to see what this WC2010 rules are like.
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i know this isnt OU, I just wanted to ask if garchomp can be used in standard doubles battles outside of this tournament. (even tho this isnt the place to ask)
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Well, it's not any two ubers. It's any two legendaries on the list. If you want to get technical, you could have 5 ubers, but that's cheap and stupid. (2 from the list, Garchomp, Wobbuffet, and Wynaut)
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Relax, Wobbuffet and Wynaut are horrendously bad in Double Battles.
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To me, Wobbuffet and Wynaut are just bad in general.
Why? Well, here are some calculations (thanks to smogon damage calculator) If a swords-dancing Weavile is sent out against Wobbuffet (to, lets say, revenge kill it), what could happen is this: -Night slash by itself will do 61.1% damage (330 HP) to 72.2% damage (390 HP). -If Night slash is critical, then it will do 122.6% damage (662 HP) to 144.4% damage (780 HP). -If a SMART person is using this Weavile set, then that person will set up and swords dance. Thus, the damage will go to this, 121.1% damage (654 HP) to 142.6% damage (770 HP). Wynaut will go down in a single night slash that isn't powered up, so there is no reason to post calculations. Even if Wobbuffet uses Encore to make it so Weavile is stuck using Swords dance, that would only be hurting its cause. It would be forced to switch out or faint after Weavile's encore is finished. This is some reasons why Wobbuffet shouldn't be an Uber, regardless of it being able to counter everything. There are plenty of things that can take Wobbuffet down in a single shot due to its poor defense and Special Defense. So, my recommendation is: DON'T USE WOBBUFFET OR WYNAUT!!! |
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Wobbuffet is considered Ubers just because it is so hard to take down. If Weavile Night Slahses it, Counter OHKOs for a kill. And if it DOES Swords Dance, Encore handles that. So what if Wobbuffet has to switch out? That's what it is made to do. Encore something so you can bring in somethink else that can set up, like Calm Mind Kyogre. Thus, the Encore'd Pokemon has to switch out (or at least should, if they are not morons.) And even if Wobbuffet does not have stellar defenses, it has amazing HP which lets it survive just about anything and score at least one kill back. Trust me, Ubers is it's place for single battles.
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And does that mean people don't use stealth rock in this kinda stuff?
Because there is a lot of stuff that can beat Shedinja.
Check smogon.com, they have a complete list of things that can take it down near the bottom of the list on its page.
But when you think about it, if Shedinja isn't taken out by stage hazards, it could be awesome in doubles.
Example: Having your other Pokemon paralyze Shedinja, causing it to not get taken out by burn or poison. (Hint, hint, nudge, nudge)
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And does that mean people don't use stealth rock in this kinda stuff?
Because there is a lot of stuff that can beat Shedinja. Check smogon.com, they have a complete list of things that can take it down near the bottom of the list on its page. But when you think about it, if Shedinja isn't taken out by stage hazards, it could be awesome in doubles. Example: Having your other Pokemon paralyze Shedinja, causing it to not get taken out by burn or poison. (Hint, hint, nudge, nudge) |
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You can use any Pokemon aside from:
151 - Mew 251 - Celebi 385 - Jirachi 386 - Deoxys 489 - Phione 490 - Manaphy 491 - Darkrai 492 - Shaymin 493 - Arceus You can use up to two of these in your team: 150 - Mewtwo 249 - Lugia 250 - Ho-Oh 382 - Kyogre 383 - Groudon 384 - Rayquaza 483 - Dialga 484 - Palkia 487 - Giratina |
Nevertheless, thanks for putting this list up.|
Which is funny because Phoine is absolutely terrible in general and you can get as many as you want I think.
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I got a good question for yas. what if someone uses smeargle and uses darkvoid? how does sleep clause work for it? Cause i just made a smeargle for double battles with this move and was planning to use it. Cause on youtube i watch some videos for the last years world championships and a smeargle uses darkvoid.
What is "knowledge/reading the intro paragraph to the topic/paying attention to detail/common sense/sense of deduction"? Because whatever it is, you don't seem to be applying it to this situation.
Ah, didn't see that.
Well, if I find the time tomorrow I'll make the brackets. It'll be a little bit tricky to make a 32-person bracket since we haven't had a tourney as large as this in a while. If I don't post any tomorrow then can someone else (Ala or Ditto or a mod who'd like to help) make even brackets?
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Originally Posted by Excerpt from VGC Rules
Each player must enter 4-6 Pokémon on his or her Team Information Sheet. See the Ineligible and Restricted Pokémon lists below for more information on which Pokémon are eligible for the tournament.
Each player must enter 0-6 held items on his or her Team Information Sheet. Players may only use Pokémon and held items listed on their Team Information Sheet during the tournament. The Pokémon and held items listed on a player's Team Information Sheet may not be changed once the player has registered for the event. Players may change which held item a Pokémon is using between matches so long as both the Pokémon and the held item are listed on the player's Team Information Sheet. |
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just making sure. i did sign up cause wen i looked at the brackets my name wsn't on.
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ummm actually i did. if u look at the sign ups page 4 5th comment. i said
WOOHOO TIME FOR PWNAGE. hvn't played pokemon in over a year. P.S. wt's does a Pokémon obtained by Random Number Generator manipulation mean. so like wts a random number generator???
I'm sorry if I didn't make it clear but that was my sign up
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ummm actually i did. if u look at the sign ups page 4 5th comment. i said
WOOHOO TIME FOR PWNAGE. hvn't played pokemon in over a year. P.S. wt's does a Pokémon obtained by Random Number Generator manipulation mean. so like wts a random number generator??? I'm sorry if I didn't make it clear but that was my sign up |
It's theoretically possible that I might not be able to make this tournament. Turns out I have a bike ride today, and I don't know when it'll end (I suspect around 2 PM EST, or 11 AM PST). If I can't make it at all, then feel free to disqualify me, but if not, then.... yeah. I have every intention on making this tournament.
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