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1. Justjack91 said on April 21, 2010, 02:36:58 AM (-07:00)

Zoroark
289 posts

Hey everyone.

So I was thinking about the old Silver and Gold cloning glitch and how I ended getting my trainer sprite to be the Pokemon battling (really messed up my game), and I thought about this:

Why are humans or people immune to Pokeballs?

If the series encourages the idea that Pokemon and humans were closer long ago than they are now, then why can't a Pokeball that can house as big a Pokemon as Lugia or Groudon not be used on people?

You may think I'm being silly, but think about it. It's never been suggested in the manga, the show, or the games. I think it's totally viable and realistic.

We should be more skeptical about the nature of the Pokeball. Surely even a Masterball should be able to catch a camper.

2. TheRagingTyranitar said on April 21, 2010, 03:40:57 AM (-07:00)

Regigigas
808 posts

That will be messed up.

3. LiteTheIronMan said on April 21, 2010, 12:10:12 PM (-07:00)

Shaymin
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Originally Posted by Justjack91 View Post


You may think I'm being silly, but think about it. It's never been suggested in the manga, the show, or the games.
A PokeBall was thrown at Jessie in the anime. Didn't work but she apparently didn't like how it felt.

I assume that PokeBalls only work on things with a certain DNA strand? Pokemon would have a different cellular structure than humans so maybe that's how it works... still doesn't explain how people can contain items in PokeBalls.

4. Alakazamaster said on April 21, 2010, 12:45:39 PM (-07:00)

Kyurem
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A PokeBall was thrown at Jessie in the anime. Didn't work but she apparently didn't like how it felt.

I assume that PokeBalls only work on things with a certain DNA strand? Pokemon would have a different cellular structure than humans so maybe that's how it works... still doesn't explain how people can contain items in PokeBalls.
Plus apricorns used to be used as Pokeballs, so having a hollowed-out fruit recognize DNA may seem like a bit much.

5. Justjack91 said on April 21, 2010, 01:42:49 PM (-07:00)

Zoroark
289 posts

But it still doesn't answer my question as to why a Pokeball can't work on a human if both are living creatures.

This is really all in good fun, but think about it. Why is this so?

6. OMGITSJAD said on April 21, 2010, 02:22:05 PM (-07:00)

Shaymin
2,490 posts

Camper?
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Maybe some coding inside the Pokéball or something, nobody can really tell, they never have even shown us how it looks like inside a Pokeball while a Pokemon is inside. The anime's "spaceship" looking inside suggests it shrinks the Pokemon then gives then some sort of enjoyment or something maybe...No clue. =|

7. FreezeWarp said on April 21, 2010, 02:42:57 PM (-07:00)

Kyurem
2,186 posts

I'm guessing that the PokeBall technology can catch a human, but there is some kind of precaution to prevent it from doing so. Although, it would be kinda cool to get Kurt to disable that safeguard

8. Fubab_107 said on April 21, 2010, 03:31:42 PM (-07:00)

Shaymin
2,682 posts

Imagine a robber trying to hold hostages in pokeballs.
what would be the outcome? :\

9. OMGITSJAD said on April 21, 2010, 03:34:35 PM (-07:00)

Shaymin
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Imagine a robber trying to hold hostages in pokeballs.
what would be the outcome? :\
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They already do!!!!!

10. Justjack91 said on April 22, 2010, 01:40:24 PM (-07:00)

Zoroark
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They already do!!!!!
That's really funny.

11. piexing said on April 22, 2010, 01:49:05 PM (-07:00)

Volcarona
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I'm guessing that the PokeBall technology can catch a human, but there is some kind of precaution to prevent it from doing so. Although, it would be kinda cool to get Kurt to disable that safeguard
I think this is a good explanation. Maybe I'll ask Kurt not to put that in next time.

12. Fubab_107 said on April 22, 2010, 03:07:31 PM (-07:00)

Shaymin
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I think this is a good explanation. Maybe I'll ask Kurt not to put that in next time.
Then heavy balls can catch fat people and fast balls catch...track runners?
WAIT what would Lure balls catch?!

13. Alakazamaster said on April 22, 2010, 03:33:27 PM (-07:00)

Kyurem
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Then heavy balls can catch fat people and fast balls catch...track runners?
WAIT what would Lure balls catch?!
Swimmers of course! Love Balls catch couples, and Friend Balls catch your Friends!

14. pokemaster163 said on April 22, 2010, 04:55:30 PM (-07:00)

Charizard
111 posts

i dont think pokeball as a house would be a cool of an idea. it would be soo compacted and stuff.

15. Fubab_107 said on April 22, 2010, 09:34:58 PM (-07:00)

Shaymin
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Swimmers of course! Love Balls catch couples, and Friend Balls catch your Friends!
Would level balls catch people...the same level as you???

Omg that sounds stupid.

16. Buoysel said on April 23, 2010, 05:06:24 PM (-07:00)

Zoroark
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Would level balls catch people...the same level as you???

Omg that sounds stupid.
Age = Level ?

17. Meowth! That's right! said on May 5, 2010, 08:49:21 PM (-07:00)

Joltik
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18. GreenLiquid said on May 5, 2010, 09:13:30 PM (-07:00)

Regigigas
881 posts

I have an explanation for the functioning of Poké Balls which, though not directly canonical, is not at odds with the canon and is thus at least viable.

It's possible that the balls have some kind of security mechanism that prevents them from containing certain kinds of matter, but this seems unlikely to me. Not only would this make Poké Balls rather potent weapons, but it would raise ethical questions that the show hasn't even looked at yet. Remember that we still have no clue what exactly "occurs" inside of them or even how time passes for the creature stored. We do know that the creatures inside can tell what's going on outside, as evidenced by Misty's Psyduck popping up at the wrong moments. How well they can discern external events and conversation, though, is still questionable.

My take on why Apricorns and Poké Balls can only capture Pokémon is that the objects somehow respond to the Pokémon's elemental signature. All Pokémon possess one or more elemental types, which somehow is tied to or resonates within the Apricorn. This allows the Pokémon to be collected, stored, bound, and further perhaps commanded by the capturing trainer. The reason why trainers can't be captured is that they are not composed of or directly linked to the elements, and are thus immune. As for items, I think that Poké Balls can only store them as energy for two reasons: they are not particularly complicated, and the passage of time is irrelevant for them. Human structures, by comparison, are too complex for this to work on. Either that, or we assume that the held items gain some elemental energy by being held and are thus able to be captured as the Pokémon can be.

In the end, I trace it to some mystical quality of the Apricorn fruit which ties it to the elements, though others may view it differently. For this theory to be valid, I assert that all Poké Balls, including modern ones, are constructed using Apricorns; the newer ones simply coat it in technology, using the fruit very minimally. Though this is not shown in canon, it is not disputed in canon either. Furthermore, this assertion logically leads to the conclusion that companies such as Silph Co. and the Devon Corporation, which create Poké Balls, must have orchards of Apricorns somewhere in order to produce them. That may be a stretch, but that's how I see it.

19. Ningamer said on May 5, 2010, 11:59:45 PM (-07:00)

Giratina
3,415 posts

Don't try to explain it. Just accept it!

20. Dilster3000 said on May 6, 2010, 06:09:28 AM (-07:00)

Haxorus
314 posts

I think the Pokeballs energy scans the DNA of the thing, if its a Pokemon.
It gains its energy and sucks it up to the core of the Ball.

Thats what I think

21. Justjack91 said on May 7, 2010, 11:48:49 AM (-07:00)

Zoroark
289 posts

Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenLiquid View Post
I have an explanation for the functioning of Poké Balls which, though not directly canonical, is not at odds with the canon and is thus at least viable.

It's possible that the balls have some kind of security mechanism that prevents them from containing certain kinds of matter, but this seems unlikely to me. Not only would this make Poké Balls rather potent weapons, but it would raise ethical questions that the show hasn't even looked at yet. Remember that we still have no clue what exactly "occurs" inside of them or even how time passes for the creature stored. We do know that the creatures inside can tell what's going on outside, as evidenced by Misty's Psyduck popping up at the wrong moments. How well they can discern external events and conversation, though, is still questionable.

My take on why Apricorns and Poké Balls can only capture Pokémon is that the objects somehow respond to the Pokémon's elemental signature. All Pokémon possess one or more elemental types, which somehow is tied to or resonates within the Apricorn. This allows the Pokémon to be collected, stored, bound, and further perhaps commanded by the capturing trainer. The reason why trainers can't be captured is that they are not composed of or directly linked to the elements, and are thus immune. As for items, I think that Poké Balls can only store them as energy for two reasons: they are not particularly complicated, and the passage of time is irrelevant for them. Human structures, by comparison, are too complex for this to work on. Either that, or we assume that the held items gain some elemental energy by being held and are thus able to be captured as the Pokémon can be.

In the end, I trace it to some mystical quality of the Apricorn fruit which ties it to the elements, though others may view it differently. For this theory to be valid, I assert that all Poké Balls, including modern ones, are constructed using Apricorns; the newer ones simply coat it in technology, using the fruit very minimally. Though this is not shown in canon, it is not disputed in canon either. Furthermore, this assertion logically leads to the conclusion that companies such as Silph Co. and the Devon Corporation, which create Poké Balls, must have orchards of Apricorns somewhere in order to produce them. That may be a stretch, but that's how I see it.
I can't believe I didn't see this explanation. That is such an interesting take. Thank you for your input. This made for a very interesting read.

So the elemental make-up and complexity of the Pokemon's genetics could have an important role as to why Pokemon can only be caught. Fascinating.

Kudos to you man. You really wrote something cool.

22. Velociraptor78 said on May 7, 2010, 01:12:40 PM (-07:00)

Regigigas
803 posts

Billy threw one Lure Ball!
*shake*
*shake*
*shake*
*sparkle sparkle*
Gotcha! Michael Phelps was caught!

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