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Poll: Should we Move?

Yes
12 52.17%
No
5 21.74%
Maybe
6 26.09%

Voters: 23

1. Velociraptor78 said on February 28, 2010, 09:09:52 PM (-08:00)

Regigigas
803 posts

Recently, I've heard rumors from Cat and KingofKYA that they are considering moving Floatzel.net/VR to a new host. Do you think we should?

2. Cat333Pokémon said on February 28, 2010, 09:19:14 PM (-08:00)

Administrator
10,307 posts

Yeah, now that the downtime is coming back, I think we are going to move.

3. Falco said on March 1, 2010, 02:55:27 AM (-08:00)

Zoroark
242 posts

Sorry as im new here what do you mean by move? You mean change your host for a better one?

4. The Spirit of Time said on March 1, 2010, 06:36:59 AM (-08:00)

Rayquaza
3,934 posts

As long as we are going to evade all the errors that are occurring, then yeah... it is better for us to move.

5. Yoshi648 said on March 1, 2010, 07:37:21 AM (-08:00)

Administrator
3,147 posts

MAKE UP YOUR MIND ALREADY CAT

6. Shadow said on March 1, 2010, 07:55:23 AM (-08:00)

Giratina
3,209 posts

By moving to a new host, which is probably going to be better than the existing one, the irritating errors will hopefully stop.
So, I say yes for moving.

7. Cat333Pokémon said on March 1, 2010, 09:35:29 AM (-08:00)

Administrator
10,307 posts

Yes, moving to a better host.

And Yoshi, how can I make up my mind when the server can't make up its mind for when to give errors?

8. Jaredvcxz said on March 1, 2010, 11:46:19 AM (-08:00)

Giratina
3,185 posts

Quote:
Originally Posted by Yoshi648 View Post
MAKE UP YOUR MIND ALREADY CAT
^this



And that's easy cat: If you get a lot of errors in one month, move.

9. Quadcentruo said on March 1, 2010, 12:03:30 PM (-08:00)

Giratina
3,684 posts

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cat333Pokémon View Post
Yeah, now that the downtime is coming back, I think we are going to move.
Well think and are, are two COMPLETELY different things!
Its either a yes, or no.

Also, i haven't gotten any errors since last week. But if the errors do continue to happen very frequently, we should just move.

10. Magmaster12 said on March 1, 2010, 12:07:09 PM (-08:00)

Rayquaza
4,872 posts

No, I think the site has been going pretty smoothly lately.

11. Jaredvcxz said on March 1, 2010, 12:11:49 PM (-08:00)

Giratina
3,185 posts

How about this: Every time there is an error when we log in, we write down the time, location we're in (I.E.: Sowthwest florida), And what the error states in a .txt file. Then, we copy and paste it at the end of the month to posts in an error counting thread, and we count the errors. If they reach a certain number, then we move.



It's a bit of work, but I'd say it would be worth it.

12. Quadcentruo said on March 1, 2010, 12:13:29 PM (-08:00)

Giratina
3,684 posts

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jaredvcxz View Post
It's a bit of work, but I'd say it would be worth it.
Too much work if you ask me...

13. Jaredvcxz said on March 1, 2010, 12:15:22 PM (-08:00)

Giratina
3,185 posts

This doesn't require the participation of the entire forum, though. We could have it as just staff. I mean, there WILL be multiple entries for the same error; so the less people there are, the more accurate.

14. James said on March 1, 2010, 12:51:57 PM (-08:00)

Volcarona
665 posts

Quote:
Originally Posted by Magmaster12 View Post
No, I think the site has been going pretty smoothly lately.
Not really. I've been waiting for the errors EST lately and I find the errors happen ABOUT 12:00 am EST. Whoever says no move is either in 2 categories:

1. The ones who are either sleeping or not online during errors.

OR

2. The ones who have no idea what a database error is. o_O

15. Winter said on March 1, 2010, 01:36:11 PM (-08:00)

Charizard
106 posts

Whatever is most cost effective and efficient for this site is what I support. I'm proud to be a part of progress unlike hinderance before with imagize.

16. Cat333Pokémon said on March 1, 2010, 02:37:04 PM (-08:00)

Administrator
10,307 posts

I am all for a move, so if it comes to that, we will be moving. But it has to be decided soon as to give us time to make sure the move worked. We don't want to pay for two months on the new host and the old host at the same time.

17. James said on March 1, 2010, 02:38:08 PM (-08:00)

Volcarona
665 posts

Quote:
Originally Posted by Quadcentruo View Post
Too much work if you ask me...
*I apologize for my next blunt statement*

Why do you care if it's too much work? o.O. Cat and KingofKYA do all the server work. If you really want to help him, suggest ideas and maybe different server hosts instead of having a "un-optimistic" attitude towards this.

Once again, sorry for the blunt statement. It just irritates me that we don't have a more supportive attitude.

18. SK said on March 1, 2010, 02:40:21 PM (-08:00)

Giratina
3,238 posts

Get rid of the errors. D:

I voted maybe just in case you guys don;t wanna spend a lot of money or do too much work moving it and stuff.

19. GreenLiquid said on March 1, 2010, 02:47:08 PM (-08:00)

Regigigas
881 posts

What date will the new move be on? The way I see it, we would be far better off to get it out of the way before March 14, since the site will likely get plenty of traffic then, or, barring that, to have the move a fair amount of time after.

20. Cat333Pokémon said on March 1, 2010, 02:54:42 PM (-08:00)

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Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenLiquid View Post
What date will the new move be on? The way I see it, we would be far better off to get it out of the way before March 14, since the site will likely get plenty of traffic then, or, barring that, to have the move a fair amount of time after.
I agree. That's a very important date for this site. The forum must be stable by that date.

21. SK said on March 1, 2010, 02:55:35 PM (-08:00)

Giratina
3,238 posts

Ugh, we'd probably have major problems if we don;t move by March 14.

So, we'll move soon, then?

22. Jaredvcxz said on March 1, 2010, 03:05:18 PM (-08:00)

Giratina
3,185 posts

Quote:
Originally Posted by James View Post
*I apologize for my next blunt statement*

Why do you care if it's too much work? o.O. Cat and KingofKYA do all the server work. If you really want to help him, suggest ideas and maybe different server hosts instead of having a "un-optimistic" attitude towards this.

Once again, sorry for the blunt statement. It just irritates me that we don't have a more supportive attitude.
He was talking about my plan.

23. GreenLiquid said on March 1, 2010, 03:15:51 PM (-08:00)

Regigigas
881 posts

How long would the server take to move? I would suggest a weekend date, but I think Cat has a pretty open schedule, and of course it is ultimately his choice. How much advance notice will we have?

24. James said on March 1, 2010, 03:21:07 PM (-08:00)

Volcarona
665 posts

As long as we get in done before HG and SS' release date.

25. Cat333Pokémon said on March 1, 2010, 03:36:15 PM (-08:00)

Administrator
10,307 posts

I'll try to tell you as soon as I learn the exact date. According to KYA, it shouldn't take more than a couple hours (due to it going VPS to VPS).

26. LiteTheIronMan said on March 1, 2010, 05:11:04 PM (-08:00)

Shaymin
2,854 posts

I couldn't care either way as long as the forum still freaking WORKS. If that's the case then I'm all for moving.

27. FreezeWarp said on March 1, 2010, 05:49:21 PM (-08:00)

Kyurem
2,186 posts

Its worth noting that the errors are trackable; you simply need to write to a text file or otherwise trigger a log when a 503 occurs (see CI's 404 and 403 pages). The same thing can be done with any error as long as PHP is still being processed (which may or may not be true).

28. Cat333Pokémon said on March 2, 2010, 11:11:42 PM (-08:00)

Administrator
10,307 posts

Excellent news! When (not if) we move, downtime should be less than 10 minutes due to synchronization! It will likely be this weekend.

29. Falco said on March 2, 2010, 11:40:13 PM (-08:00)

Zoroark
242 posts

Cat i sent you a PM about this, i think you might be interested.

30. Will said on March 3, 2010, 12:54:25 AM (-08:00)

Zoroark
252 posts

I've never gotten a error before. Maybe it's cause I login like every 3 days, or maybe I live in a diff timezone..

31. Shadow said on March 3, 2010, 07:54:31 AM (-08:00)

Giratina
3,209 posts

Hey Cat, we need to talk over MSN concerning this issue.
I've got some things to point out.

32. Cat333Pokémon said on March 6, 2010, 01:43:03 AM (-08:00)

Administrator
10,307 posts

Alright, it's in testing right now, but not BurstNET. We're testing a cloud-type of hosting called VPS.NET, which lets you test by paying just $2 a day (for the plan we're looking at).

33. Jaredvcxz said on March 6, 2010, 04:38:18 AM (-08:00)

Giratina
3,185 posts

This server is terrible for the arcade because of how much redirecting and such is done.

34. Cat333Pokémon said on March 6, 2010, 12:17:44 PM (-08:00)

Administrator
10,307 posts

We're not on the new server yet. We have synchronized testing (where everything that occurs on the Fivebean server occurs on the new one as well.

35. piexing said on March 6, 2010, 01:51:18 PM (-08:00)

Volcarona
597 posts

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cat333Pokémon View Post
Alright, it's in testing right now, but not BurstNET. We're testing a cloud-type of hosting called VPS.NET, which lets you test by paying just $2 a day (for the plan we're looking at).
I don't want to sponsor a child. Stop airing these commercials!
Oh, you were talking about something else.

36. James said on March 6, 2010, 02:25:59 PM (-08:00)

Volcarona
665 posts

All I know is that, this server's lag is killing my soul. When I clicked this thread it took 2 minutes to get here. o.O

37. Magmaster12 said on March 6, 2010, 03:00:08 PM (-08:00)

Rayquaza
4,872 posts

After the server outage this afternoon I'm changing my vote to yes.

38. FreezeWarp said on March 6, 2010, 03:16:34 PM (-08:00)

Kyurem
2,186 posts

Quote:
Originally Posted by James View Post
All I know is that, this server's lag is killing my soul. When I clicked this thread it took 2 minutes to get here. o.O
That can be a more generic problem - after 2 minutes the server would just quit. The real problem is a browser memory problem, which means you simply have to refresh or click the link again.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Magmaster12 View Post
After the server outage this afternoon I'm changing my vote to yes.
You mean the server was down or just that MySQL died (the latter only existing when you visit the Forums, not Floatzel.net or Crystal Islands, except for the Pokedexes, Topsites, and PokeAdoptables).

39. Jaredvcxz said on March 6, 2010, 03:24:37 PM (-08:00)

Giratina
3,185 posts

Quote:
Originally Posted by FreezeWarp View Post
You mean the server was down or just that MySQL died (the latter only existing when you visit the Forums, not Floatzel.net or Crystal Islands, except for the Pokedexes, Topsites, and PokeAdoptables).
That part happens frequently, though.

40. Cat333Pokémon said on March 6, 2010, 04:23:21 PM (-08:00)

Administrator
10,307 posts

Quote:
Originally Posted by FreezeWarp View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by James View Post
All I know is that, this server's lag is killing my soul. When I clicked this thread it took 2 minutes to get here. o.O
That can be a more generic problem - after 2 minutes the server would just quit. The real problem is a browser memory problem, which means you simply have to refresh or click the link again.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Magmaster12 View Post
After the server outage this afternoon I'm changing my vote to yes.
You mean the server was down or just that MySQL died (the latter only existing when you visit the Forums, not Floatzel.net or Crystal Islands, except for the Pokedexes, Topsites, and PokeAdoptables).
MySQL keeps crashing, the CPU keeps getting used by others, and memory keeps spiking.

41. Cat333Pokémon said on March 10, 2010, 09:45:47 AM (-08:00)

Administrator
10,307 posts

Another important bump. Warning: all-caps.

FIVEBEAN, YOU SUCK! 57% UPTIME DOES NOT SHOW A GOOD HOSTING COMPANY. YOUR OVERSELLING IS TERRIBLE, YOUR RELIABILITY IS AWFUL, AND I DON'T EVEN WANT TO KNOW HOW BAD PEOPLE WITH BUSINESSES ON YOUR SERVER HAVE IT!

Yes, that 57% is accurate. That's the uptime for yesterday. Today's uptime, given the server will be up for the rest of the day, is already at 70%.

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