Okay, first of all, I did get permission from Cat to post this early. Making a hardcore team does take some time, so an extra two weeks was given. Also, LiteTheIronMan is co-hosting the tournament with me.

So, the twist is that you may only use Second Generation Pokémon. I'm going to make this very clear. You may not use anything is not in National Dex numbers from 1-151, 202, and 249-493.

As of right now, I don't have that many rules, but here we go

Rule that shouldn't have to be said: NO HACKING

1. No use of übers. That basically means no Lugia, Ho-oh, Wobbuffet, or Celebi.
Rule 1. Addition: The use of Azumarill with Belly Drum and Aqua Jet is not permitted.

2. Battles shall be conducted in 6 on 6 style. A level 50 all rule will be put into place.

3. This will be conducted in single battle.

4. Only one item of any kind can be used on the team.

5. Clauses in play: Sleep clause, Species clause, SkarmBliss Clause, Item clause, OHKO clause, Evasion clause, Explosion clause

6. You may only have ONE of the following on your team: , , , (Tell me if any should be added)

Assuming no one uses not fully evolved Pokémon, here's what you're left with:

Meganium, Typhlosion, Feraligatr, Noctowl, Ledian, Ariados, Crobat, Lanturn, Togetic, Xatu, Ampharos, Bellossom, Azumarill, Sudowoodo, Politoed, Jumpluff, Aipom, Sunflora, Yanma, Quagsire, Espeon, Umbreon, Murkrow, Slowking, Misdreavus, Girafarig, Forretress, Gligar, Steelix, Granbull, Qwilfish, Scizor, Shuckle, Heracross, Sneasel, Ursaring, Magcargo, Piloswine, Corsola, Octillery, Delibird, Mantine, Houndoom, Kingdra, Donphan, Porygon 2, Stantler, Smeargle, Hitmontop, Miltank, Blissey, Raikou, Entei, Suicune, Tyranitar

I suppose we should start talking about clauses now?

No two of the same Pokemon
No two of the same held item
No two Pokemon asleep or frozen (Sleep/Freeze clause)
SelfDestruct/Explosion Clause

Are those good? Should we add more/remove these?

How about no statuses what so ever.

Interesting. I doubt I'll make a new team, just piece together bits from my other teams. Still should be fun. One thing though: Maybe we should let pokemon like Weavile and Gliscor in. Pokemon who are Gen 2 at heart, but got a nice boosting evolution.

Aww, I wanted Togekiss...

On the off chance you change your mind, heres the list of Pokemon:
Togekiss
Ambipom
Yanmega
Honchkrow
Mismagius
Gliscor
Weavile
Mamoswine

F.E.A.R. Pokemons are allowed?

So far I like it. Especially the use of one of Entei, Suicune, Raikou, or Tyranitar.

I do like the idea of using the evolutions who are 2nd generation at heart but yes you should keep it 2nd generation only.

It it 6 on 6, right?

Aww good to know tyranitors on that list of limited pokes~! =w=
Although I don't think Entei should be with the other limited pokes.

His semi-bulkiness is wasted by his fire typing, having weaknesses to common attack types like water, ground and rock. His movepool is also too small making him rather predictable without the use of hidden power. Im not saying hes bad, just not all that amazing.

Here's a list of the pokemon people can use in this tourny, assuming nobody uses unevolved pokemon:

Meganium, Typhlosion, Feraligatr, Noctowl, Ledian, Ariados, Crobat, Lanturn, Togetic, Xatu, Ampharos, Bellossom, Azumarill, Sudowoodo, Politoed, Jumpluff, Aipom, Sunflora, Yanma, Quagsire, Espeon, Umbreon, Murkrow, Slowking, Misdreavus, Girafarig, Forretress, Gligar, Steelix, Granbull, Qwilfish, Scizor, Shuckle, Heracross, Sneasel, Ursaring, Magcargo, Piloswine, Corsola, Octillery, Delibird, Mantine, Houndoom, Kingdra, Donphan, Porygon 2, Stantler, Smeargle, Hitmontop, Miltank, Blissey, Raikou, Entei, Suicune, Tyranitar

Thank you for making that list. I'm going to put that in the first post now. I'll give you credit for that. *yoink*

I've got 5 pokemon for my team, but I can't decide on a 6th one. I kind of want a piloswine, but I don't want to raise a swinub 40 levels. *Sigh*

Also, I still want to know if it's 6 on 6 or 3 on 3.

Oh, whoops. It'll be a 6 on 6, unless we get enough people not wanting that. I think that's the only way to do a true battle, if you ask me. I'll fix that right now.

This tournament is a good start for the release of HG and SS.

question! if your using platnum in the tournament can you change and use HG or SS?

ok all of does anwsered my question but i want in on this

oh well i can wait

Aw Lv. 50s...aww...Lv. 100s are longer and more intense...plus your Pokemon do ten times more damage. =\

@Magmaster12: No. Nonononono. Never. No. No way. No.

Otherwise, everything looks in order, but may I suggest having the tourney exactly a week after HG/SS releases? It'd provide more than enough time for obtaining Pokemon(especially since Lv. 50 doesn't count EV training) for your team while still allowing order and not having a end of the month MKWii fiasco. =P (especially since HG/SS releases on a Sunday)

Now to find a Pokemon to replace one on my planned team...

Indeed, there will be quite a bit of skill involved when it is played at lvl. 50, since trainers can't fall back on their EV'd Pokemon when they start to lose! I'm all for it, even though I EV train.

I thing this tournament will be moved to April, cause of the Server move.

Well, I think it should be a double battle tourment.

@James: A tournament postponement has happened before. The tournament doesn't necessarily need to switch months. Sunny's will be held the first weekend, while this one will be held the last weekend, on Sunday to be exact.

@Mag: It's single battle because double battles weren't introduced into the Pokémon franchise until the third generation

im up for this.

We actually don't know yet if we can do that we need someone (like Ditto) to answer it.

I don't think that you should be able to switch one Pokémon out for another in between rounds in a tournament. For example, it's not fair to have one person face one team and then have the next person face a whole new team completely. The first person may have had more of a chance of winning. As for switching games, I see no problem in it AS LONG AS the team is the same for reasons I just explained.

Something about Azumarill,
-Huge Power: Nice
-Belly Drum: Owchie
-Aqua Jet (without belly drum): Tactical
-Belly Drum AND Aqua Jet: Broken, which means Banned!!

So what is it exactly that you want? Do you want that particular set to be banned, or is it that you want the egg moves thing to be banned, or both?

Does it only count for egg moves? I'm planning on using a pokemon with some special moves, but that's because it's from the gamecube games.

I think that the set should be banned, because banning egg moves really upsets the balance of things in certain situations. Plus some of my team members use egg moves.

Thanks for bringing that up. I'm not really competitive savvy, believe it or not, and I don't even realize some of these move combinations. I will amend the rules for that particular moveset. Please tell me if there are any more. I do not think that the egg moves rule should be implemented. One of the most fun parts about this is seeing what different moves you can get by breeding.

Oh yes, I really like this and I'll take part for sure once signups open.

Anyway, I'm not familiar with Pokemon tourney, so could someone probably explain to me how we battle each other? I used to have NetBattle and sth. else that I don't remember the name of... Is it a programme of the kind?

Also, if we limit the tourney to 2nd generation pokemon, does that limit the touney to 1st and 2nd generation attacks as well?

The Little Cup Tourney has ended, and now I must prepare for this tourney. Thank god I have my entire team plannes out, and I got all but 1 member of it. Now to EV train :/

Hey dittos. o3o Should celebi be up on that restricted list too? =w=

Celebi has actually been on the list since the start. I didn't realize that it wasn't an über before I made it. I guess it'll stay on there. It also shows me how much people fully read the rules...

Oh geez now I feel really stupid. :/

I was only looking at the restricted list, i.e. the legendary dogs and Tyranitar.

Well, it looks like for now that Celebi will stay in the Banned list unless something else come up.
On another matter, I like the arguing! It's fun to watch. Keep it up. I'll put a poll up for the Skarmbliss clause right now, and I'll keep it until... Sunday? Does that sound fair enough?

Sunday sounds good.

Oh, and another rule we should establish: Since we're only going to be using second gen style rules, I decree that we only conduct this tourney through Link Cable.

@Sunny: I use those words interchangeably. They all mean the same thing to me.

@Jad: I mean the poll will be up until this Sunday. The tournament in question will be held on Sunday, March 28th.

Well, even though im not going to compete,
I don't see why there should be a skarmbliss clause.

All it takes is a heracross to use close-combat to own either one of the two and ruin the double wall plan

Indeed, Skarmory can take a hit from Heracross without a problem, and then Brave Bird or Drill Peck for the OHKO.

Yes, between the two of them, they can completely nullify most attacks. Both have healing moves as well. I think the only thing that even has a chance at breaking the combo is somekinda mixed sweeper. Otherwise both can outstall the opponent for as long as they want. (Between soft boil and roost that is)


Also apologies to ditto for that comment as I was...*ahem* sensitive that day. >3> not a good day.

I have my whole team ready for this.

Have we picked a date? I'd like to wait until april, as the next two weekends do not work for me.

Actually, it's going to be on the 28th. I have (major) complications on the 27th. I've already cleared it with Cat.

Thank goodness. I need all the time I can get! Preparing this team is difficult, since Im using a Pokemon that requires a TON of chain-breeding to get the right moveset.

I don;t think I can make it on that day. *ugh*

I just realized that it is definitely past Sunday. SkarmBliss clause is put into effect.

Erg I need to prepare my team for this tourney... but I can't pry myself away from HeartGold. This could be a problem. :/

And I'm glad SkarmBliss Clause is in affect, that could get abused really easily.

I no. I can't stop playing it.
Which is bad because I still have my normal team to make too. xD

Ugh, don't remind me. I still have to do my Gym Team as well.