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Pokémon Black and White → Generation Five's Legends: Better than God

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1. LiteTheIronMan said on February 2, 2010, 08:49:20 PM (-08:00)

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"How is Game Freak going to top God?"

By making Gods of Gods.

What types of legendary monsters would you like to hunt, capture, train, and bond with in the fifth generation of Pokemon games?

I've made my disposition quite clear. Vaccuum physics, gravity, and annihilation legendary Pokemon would be awesome to behold.

What do you want?

2. Yoshi648 said on February 2, 2010, 08:51:06 PM (-08:00)

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Originally Posted by LiteTheIronMan View Post
"How is Game Freak going to top God?"

3. GreenLiquid said on February 2, 2010, 08:52:00 PM (-08:00)

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If they actually go about making a 'god of the multiverse' or some other self-topping thing like that, then I think a shark will have been jumped. I completely agree about having PokéGods of more narrowly defined things like illusion, maybe the stars, and some other things. But if they keep trying to top themselves with relative strength of Pokémon, it's going to turn into DBZ.

4. Sunny said on February 2, 2010, 09:45:59 PM (-08:00)

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I still stand by having legend of life and death. :V

5. Kin Gikaru said on February 3, 2010, 01:14:46 AM (-08:00)

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Yoshi. "WE GO FOR GOD!"

I always thought there couldn't be a fifth gen thanks to Arceus (or Mew, if you wanna look at it that way (Arceus >>>> Mew :3)). If I recall correctly, they didn't really refer to Arceus as "god," even though we all know they pretty much did. What if they don't mean to top god in the fifth gen? I mean, I'm really hoping they make some unique-not-unique legendaries. Ever see a bug-legendary that isn't Arceus? I want one of those.

6. Magmaster12 said on February 3, 2010, 04:00:20 AM (-08:00)

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It's beileved that the legendary in the next movie is the Master of Illusion.

7. The Spirit of Time said on February 3, 2010, 04:48:03 AM (-08:00)

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We need a rock legendary other than Regirock. I like to see a legendary wolf and snake.

8. Alakazamaster said on February 3, 2010, 07:18:18 AM (-08:00)

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Who says we have to have Gods of Gods? We could have more minor legendaries. For example, Celebi isn't the god of anything, it just time travels and makes forests grow. We could just have legendaries with great powers, but don't rule over one specific theme (time, space, nightmares, what-have-you.)

9. Flare Soru said on February 3, 2010, 07:25:15 AM (-08:00)

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Originally Posted by Alakazamaster View Post
Who says we have to have Gods of Gods? We could have more minor legendaries. For example, Celebi isn't the god of anything, it just time travels and makes forests grow. We could just have legendaries with great powers, but don't rule over one specific theme (time, space, nightmares, what-have-you.)
I agree. Who said the nest legends HAVE to top arceus?

10. Shadow said on February 3, 2010, 09:56:50 AM (-08:00)

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I'd like to see more diversified typings of legendaries like Fight, Poison, and Bug. I'd also like to see new dual typings that haven't been made yet; something like Water/Ghost maybe?
Oh yeah, one more point: I'd like to see legendaries that can be used for competitive battles.

11. Charizard98 said on February 3, 2010, 03:03:01 PM (-08:00)

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How can they make a legendary pokemon more powerful than the god pokemon itself? 5th gen has to be the hardest to pull off and hopefully the last because isnt 493 enough? Sure pokemon shouldn't die but, what ideas will they have? A hamburger pokemon? Next thing you know they start with ice cream or Mario or even human beings. I'm think a pokemon more powerful then god has to be a pokemon of all universes'. A pokemon that is the all of all and not an over sized cookie.

12. Kin Gikaru said on February 4, 2010, 12:11:17 AM (-08:00)

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Shadow
I'd like to see more diversified typings of legendaries like Fight, Poison, and Bug. I'd also like to see new dual typings that haven't been made yet; something like Water/Ghost maybe?
Normal/Ghost. Yes, yes? On a serious note, maybe a pair of types that don't exactly work together, like Fire/Water. I think it sounds pretty silly, but hey, adds to the weirdness.

It might come off a little weird when I say this, but perhaps a Pokemon that is...a double-type? Double the STAB, 4x/8x super effective attacks, and 8x the damage taken from superior types? I DEFINITELY want a fire pokemon like that.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shadow
Oh yeah, one more point: I'd like to see legendaries that can be used for competitive battles.
^This, but as much as I agree, I think they'll have to make some different legendaries. There aren't too many of them that will play defensively or stall, even if they could. Then again, maybe it's my lack of seeing legendaries in battle that I say that.

A Blissey-like legendary. With good defense. Owwww

13. Shadow said on February 4, 2010, 11:09:31 AM (-08:00)

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How can they make a legendary pokemon more powerful than the god pokemon itself?
And who said they want to create a legendary Pokémon more powerful than Arceus?
They can simply create more legendaries that are weaker than Arceus, but are still strong.

I have noticed a lot of people saying that it doesn't make sense to create a legendary Pokémon in the 5th generation that is weaker than Arceus (in other forums). I fail to see what's so 'hard' or 'weird' to do that; it perfectly makes sense for me. Here's something to think about:
When Mew (and possibly Mewtwo) was first introduced to us, we used to think that it was the ancestor of all Pokémon (and indirectly, the 'god' of Pokémon, somewhat). I, or rather we, found it very normal to have weaker legendaries released in the later generation - the 2nd generation, back then.
Therefore, I don't see why people are making a big fuss about Arceus' existence, and the need of toppling it by releasing a more 'omnipotent' legendary. I mean, I am not able to identify any progressive link between the legendaries of the older generations and the legendaries of the newer generations.
The creation of a new region can be interpreted practically as discovering a new land inhabited by new species of Pokémon. These new species include legendaries that are unique and not known nor seen to man before.
Arceus remains the god, and the equation remains the same in this case.

I hope I clarified myself as much as possible.

14. Quadcentruo said on February 4, 2010, 12:00:28 PM (-08:00)

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I completely agree about having PokéGods of more narrowly defined things like illusion, maybe the stars, and some other things.
God of the planets!!

But i think nintendo went a little TOO far with all the gods of stuff in the 4th gen.
Nintendo: "Let's pull out all the stops! God of time and space! God of human emotions! God of Gods!"
Worker of Nintendo: "what about the 5th generation?"
Nintendo: "What 5th generation?"

15. Manny1250 said on February 4, 2010, 03:38:51 PM (-08:00)

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How about Jesus? I know its wrong but it might work

16. LiteTheIronMan said on February 4, 2010, 04:07:54 PM (-08:00)

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To clarify some points of my own:

My "Gods of Gods statement is something of a reference to Marvel, where even heaven, hell, and related powers are dwarfed by superheroes and supervillians. I was using it as a phrase that meant that God won't be the stopping point for Pokemon.

As for "better than Arceus", that simply referred to the people who said, "How can you top God?" It's just an example I used. In the next generation, I highly doubt that a legend will be created to top Arceus. But it is still a possibility I'd like to entertain.

There you go, hopefully my statements seem a bit clearer.

-posted using the DSi Browser-

17. James said on February 4, 2010, 09:24:54 PM (-08:00)

Volcarona
665 posts

A dark legendary.

18. Serenade said on February 5, 2010, 01:23:14 AM (-08:00)

Volcarona
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I want a water+fire type legendary, specifically, usable of course, and with ok moves, but not too cheap.

Besides that, I'd like to see a ground,water,bug, and especially flying type legendary, I know some are already legends, but we need them combined in with another type.

The only thing that I don't want to see in legendarys is psychic type. We have enough of those.

19. The Spirit of Time said on February 5, 2010, 04:44:59 AM (-08:00)

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Nothing will top Arceus, but seeing a Cockroach frightening out Cresselia and other grass and psychic legendary Pokemon would be awesome. Seriously, BUG is needed.

20. Sub-zero said on February 5, 2010, 06:25:55 PM (-08:00)

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Screw the Gods, lol. I seriously think Arceus was release waaaaay too early.

But I agree with many other users. Just make "lesser" legendaries.

21. OMGITSJAD said on February 11, 2010, 09:42:24 AM (-08:00)

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How about Jesus? I know its wrong but it might work
Mew is Jesus like Arceus is God.

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Originally Posted by Charizard98 View Post
How can they make a legendary pokemon more powerful than the god pokemon itself? 5th gen has to be the hardest to pull off and hopefully the last because isnt 493 enough? Sure pokemon shouldn't die but, what ideas will they have? A hamburger pokemon? Next thing you know they start with ice cream or Mario or even human beings. I'm think a pokemon more powerful then god has to be a pokemon of all universes'. A pokemon that is the all of all and not an over sized cookie.
1) What's with this food theme you think Gamefreak will turn to? We aren't gonna get Pokemon: Burger Time.
2) Is 493 enough? Isn't 151 enough? No, i'm sure Gamefreak will surpass our thoughts as to how many Pokemon there can be. Will there be similarities as time passes(see Rattata -> Bidoof)? Yes, there very much will be. But i'm sure that there'll still be room to fit on our Pokedexes...until maybe 10th Gen...That'll be pushing it.
3 "even human beings" May I introduce you to Jynx, the Human-Shape Pokemon?

22. Manny1250 said on February 11, 2010, 12:49:59 PM (-08:00)

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3 "even human beings" May I introduce you to Jynx, the Human-Shape Pokemon?
or Gardevoir... is more human-shaped pokemon than Jynx

23. OMGITSJAD said on February 11, 2010, 01:43:40 PM (-08:00)

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or Gardevoir... is more human-shaped pokemon than Jynx
True, but I said that due to the fact that Jynx is literally the Human Shape Pokemon.
Quote:
"Known as the "Human Shape" Pokémon, Jynx is a female-only species that resemble short, large women."

24. RK-9 said on February 12, 2010, 03:06:03 PM (-08:00)

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How about a pokemon that has no weakness, (no type) but has super effective moves over every type? That tops arceus by 9000.

25. Kin Gikaru said on February 12, 2010, 04:40:27 PM (-08:00)

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How about a pokemon that has no weakness, (no type) but has super effective moves over every type? That tops arceus by 9000.
That's called "uber h4x0rz'd Spiritomb." It's also obscene. :/

26. RageOfInnocence said on February 12, 2010, 06:18:53 PM (-08:00)

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because isnt 493 enough?

...still a mere fraction compared to the billions of species that populate our world.

27. Charizard98 said on February 12, 2010, 06:46:17 PM (-08:00)

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...still a mere fraction compared to the billions of species that populate our world.
Yes, I just hope they don't lose it with this idea. Imagine. A hippie pokemon named peace well they already kinda did it with Alakazam. But, sooner or later they're going to put lucky from the lucky charms commercial to where you have to chase him down. More mashmellow power! Sorry, they already have a so called Zuora and Zozorark in 5th gen so they're just fine but, if 5th gen would be the last one that would be fine by me. They would be making to many spin-offs. But,... someday... they... will get to become so greedy that they...make...(gulp)... A TERRIBLE POKEMON GAME AND BIGGEST FAILURE EVER CREATED AND EVEN WORSE THAN POKEMON RANCH AND THE BIGGEST INSULT TO POKEMON FANS. SO BAD THAT WE WILL NEVER PLAY A SINGLE POKEMON GAME AFTER THAT AND WILL THROW ALL THAT POKEMON MERCHINDISE OUT THE STREET AND LET ALL THOSE DREAMS KILLED BY A CAR/TRUCK/TRAIN TO END IT!!!...(sigh)...and then you'll pretty much forget pokemon after that and never play or hear it ever again. And to end it call the air force to kill anybody with a pokemon game. Sorry, I just lost it. Now then, yes the 5th gen game should be awesome.

28. Achamo~Torchic said on February 12, 2010, 11:26:12 PM (-08:00)

Mudkip
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If they start Make POKEMON as GOD... I not want to play the rest new pokemon game anymore... ._.

I can't imagine a pokemon stronger than arceus

29. Xeo said on February 13, 2010, 07:29:40 AM (-08:00)

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[B][I][COLOR="Blue"]Screw the Gods,
I have money. Wait.
Anyway, how about they stop at Arkeus and make other legendaries?

30. Flare Soru said on February 14, 2010, 10:59:25 AM (-08:00)

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Originally Posted by Eeeveee View Post
How about a pokemon that has no weakness, (no type) but has super effective moves over every type? That tops arceus by 9000.
No weaknesses = Dark/Ghost = Sableye and Spiritomb
Super effective moves over every type = shadow pokemon

I know for a fact that a shadow Sableye or Spiritomb does not top Arceus.

and no type? WTC are you trying to pull with that?!?

31. Sunny said on February 14, 2010, 11:18:06 AM (-08:00)

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and no type? WTC are you trying to pull with that?!?
No resistances, no super effective hits, only neutral hits. I for one like the idea. I would say it would make a decent defensive pokemon, Although if something like that were made it would have to have good defensive and special defensive stats otherwie spiritomb would still outclass it with its ability to nullify psychic, normal, and fighting.

32. PokeRemixStudio said on February 16, 2010, 12:56:48 PM (-08:00)

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I think legendaries reached their peak at the 4th generation, and now they should go back to something more mundane, like legendaries representing north and south or east and west.

33. GreenLiquid said on February 16, 2010, 02:36:59 PM (-08:00)

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I think legendaries reached their peak at the 4th generation, and now they should go back to something more mundane, like legendaries representing north and south or east and west.
I agree on that. Suicune is the embodiment of the north wind, so I for one think it needs some companions for the other cardinal directions.

34. LiteTheIronMan said on February 16, 2010, 04:01:52 PM (-08:00)

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No resistances, no super effective hits, only neutral hits. I for one like the idea. I would say it would make a decent defensive pokemon, Although if something like that were made it would have to have good defensive and special defensive stats otherwie spiritomb would still outclass it with its ability to nullify psychic, normal, and fighting.
You just reminded me that we don't have a ???-type Pokemon yet. We're only left hanging with the ???-typed Curse. Maybe a ???-type Pokemon would fit those characteristics. Or it could be a legend.

...heh...???-type Arceus.

(If anyone knows what I meant by ???-type Arceus... You win a cookie. If anyone doesn't know, I don't expect you to, just know that it exists.)

35. The Spirit of Time said on February 17, 2010, 06:19:56 AM (-08:00)

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Originally Posted by LiteTheIronMan View Post

(If anyone knows what I meant by ???-type Arceus... You win a cookie. If anyone doesn't know, I don't expect you to, just know that it exists.)[/COLOR]
I heard a rumor about it and I tried it but I failed.

Anyway, I agree with ???? typed legendary. In fact, it is a very nice idea.

36. Shadow said on February 17, 2010, 09:48:05 AM (-08:00)

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Originally Posted by LiteTheIronMan View Post
You just reminded me that we don't have a ???-type Pokemon yet. We're only left hanging with the ???-typed Curse. Maybe a ???-type Pokemon would fit those characteristics. Or it could be a legend.
That would be a good addition, since we have a move but no Pokémon of this mysterious type. However, I feel like it's unlikely for an odd reason.

37. Pokemon-Know-It-All said on April 4, 2010, 09:33:57 PM (-07:00)

Charizard
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hmmm... speaking of a ??? type pokemon, Zoroark is a master of illusion and transform into a lot of different pokemon for all we know Zoroark could actually be a ??? type pokemon!
that would be awesome.

38. Ningamer said on April 5, 2010, 05:33:00 AM (-07:00)

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Whoah... What's with the bump?

And we should have a ???-type Pokémon already. *Glares at Unown*

And what would be it's weakness? !!! type?

39. blueumbreon said on April 5, 2010, 06:18:19 AM (-07:00)

Haxorus
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How about a water+fire+electric Pokemon!

40. Quadcentruo said on April 5, 2010, 06:24:31 AM (-07:00)

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How about a water+fire+electric Pokemon!
Too... many... types... on... one... pokemon....

41. bunnygirl said on April 9, 2010, 05:33:16 PM (-07:00)

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I like the idea of Life/Death
I want a like, REALLY REALLY hardcore psychic/death type or something LOL
That has a story behind it.. like it was actually KILLED a long time ago because it was so evil, and then brought back accidentally by magic or something. high SP ATK & ATK
YES PLEASE ><

And then the opposite.. something that was created to fight it, like a GOOD(light) machine or something.. Really high SP DEF & DEF

PLEASE <3

42. alternateshadow300 said on April 9, 2010, 08:19:19 PM (-07:00)

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I want a messiah.

43. LiteTheIronMan said on April 9, 2010, 08:57:58 PM (-07:00)

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I want a messiah.
Mew equals Jesus.

44. PokeRemixStudio said on April 9, 2010, 10:49:42 PM (-07:00)

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With the revelation of the game names, we probably have a better idea of what the legendaries could represent. Probably something obviously correlated with shadows and light. Night and Day?

45. Yoshizard said on April 10, 2010, 12:41:59 AM (-07:00)

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I hope it isn't something lame like friendship and love or something.

46. AuraKshatriya said on April 10, 2010, 08:57:04 AM (-07:00)

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Quote:
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How about a pokemon that has no weakness, (no type) but has super effective moves over every type? That tops arceus by 9000.
That`s basically what Pokemon XD`s shadow Pokemon were in a nutshell. They did have types, but were resistant to everything, and only other shadow moves would do regular damage. The PP of Shadow moves was infinite, and would also be super-effective against any other regular Pokemon.

47. Shadow said on April 10, 2010, 09:04:16 AM (-07:00)

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That`s basically what Pokemon XD`s shadow Pokemon were in a nutshell. They did have types, but were resistant to everything, and only other shadow moves would do regular damage. The PP of Shadow moves was infinite, and would also be super-effective against any other regular Pokemon.
Yes. Anything with 'Shadow' in its name owns like that
But seriously, since I never had any experience with Shadow Pokémon before, I was surprised as to how powerful they are when I was reading your post.

48. alternateshadow300 said on April 10, 2010, 08:32:38 PM (-07:00)

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Originally Posted by LiteTheIronMan View Post
Mew equals Jesus.
But Mew never died for our sins! We need a Pokémon that died for our sins!

49. AuraKshatriya said on April 10, 2010, 09:32:49 PM (-07:00)

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Yes. Anything with 'Shadow' in its name owns like that
But seriously, since I never had any experience with Shadow Pokémon before, I was surprised as to how powerful they are when I was reading your post.
xD "Anything with ""Shadow"" in it`s name owns like that." Nice.
Yeah, Shadow Pokemon were pretty overpowered in Pokemon XD. In Colosseum, they only had one more, Shadow Rush, which made them boring to use. They had resistance to every regular attack, and super-effective hits on any regular Pokemon, with limitless PP. But the thing that made them for fun to use in Pokemon XD was that there were various new moves added. There was a move called Shadow Sky which had a "Hail" effect on all non-Shadow Pokemon, Shadow variants of Flamethrower, Ice Beam, and Thunderbolt for Shadow Moltres, Articuno, and Zapdos, and a Shadow variant of Lugia`s AeroBlast to name a few. I imagine they gave the shadow Pokemon so much resistance to motivate players to use shadow Pokemon of their own against them, since doing so was the only (good) way to purify them. I personally would enjoy seeing another installment in the shadow Pokemon series, they worked well as RPGs, and with new Pokemon like Giratina, Lucario, and Darkrai, they could be expanded on a fair bit.

50. Quadcentruo said on April 11, 2010, 02:12:30 PM (-07:00)

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But Mew never died for our sins!
True.
But! Mew did fight for our sins, if you could call Mewtwo our sins.

51. TheRagingTyranitar said on April 25, 2010, 01:16:21 AM (-07:00)

Regigigas
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Maybe they will not make God Pokémon and the new region's people will still worship Arceus.

52. RavenTheClaw said on April 27, 2010, 10:22:58 PM (-07:00)

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There are still a lot of different cultures and myths that Nintendo can pull from. To me it just seems like most pokemon are based of far eastern cultures... Ninetails, Arcanine, etc. I really wanna see some serious creativity though. There is so much potential for awesomeness! I really wanna see some Russian elements and perhaps even Celtic, and Nordic influences!

I really wanna see some feathers though... and new fossils... i thought they were kinda lackluster in Pearl, and Diamond.


Feather Fossil
Spine Fossil
Fang Fossil
Tusk Fossil
Razor Fossil

the list goes on...

53. Evil Sonic said on May 6, 2010, 06:28:59 PM (-07:00)

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I don't think they really have to "top god", they can just keep on making normal legendaries... I like the life/death legendaries idea.

54. Nightshade Darkrai said on May 6, 2010, 07:43:57 PM (-07:00)

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Perhaps this is jsut my own warped fanon, but my impression is that Arceus is creation, which is life in a nutshell. Giratina is destruction, AKA death.

I'd love to seem some legends with types that have never been done before. I actually created my own Fakemon Fighting type Great One, in fact. There is potential for any number of lesser Great Ones to be created.

55. Evil Sonic said on May 6, 2010, 07:47:09 PM (-07:00)

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Originally Posted by Nightshade Darkrai View Post
Perhaps this is jsut my own warped fanon, but my impression is that Arceus is creation, which is life in a nutshell. Giratina is destruction, AKA death.
That might be true, but what about a truly evil death legendary? Giratina was only rampaging because of its would being messed with in the movie or something otherwise it wouldn't do anything at all.

56. Azu said on May 6, 2010, 08:12:01 PM (-07:00)

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Originally Posted by RavenTheClaw View Post
There are still a lot of different cultures and myths that Nintendo can pull from. To me it just seems like most pokemon are based of far eastern cultures... Ninetails, Arcanine, etc. I really wanna see some serious creativity though. There is so much potential for awesomeness! I really wanna see some Russian elements and perhaps even Celtic, and Nordic influences!

I really wanna see some feathers though... and new fossils... i thought they were kinda lackluster in Pearl, and Diamond.


Feather Fossil
Spine Fossil
Fang Fossil
Tusk Fossil
Razor Fossil

the list goes on...
^ This, this is an amazing idea. <3<3 The fossisls and the other cultures.

Though I would be very interested in seeing, in particular, something in the style of Greek architecture or Roman calvary/fighting.

57. Quadcentruo said on May 7, 2010, 12:19:56 PM (-07:00)

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^ This, this is an amazing idea. <3<3 The fossisls and the other cultures.

Though I would be very interested in seeing, in particular, something in the style of Greek architecture or Roman calvary/fighting.
OFF TOPIC!!

Maybe not "God" Legendary, but maybe day and night.
Darkrai already has night time it seems like. So... who will be day time?

58. Yoshi648 said on May 7, 2010, 12:34:20 PM (-07:00)

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OFF TOPIC!!

Maybe not "God" Legendary, but maybe day and night.
Darkrai already has night time it seems like. So... who will be day time?
Cressilia

59. Quadcentruo said on May 7, 2010, 12:38:25 PM (-07:00)

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There should be a legendary for each type.

60. Ningamer said on May 7, 2010, 03:18:26 PM (-07:00)

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Cressilia
Cressilia symbolises a Cresent Moon: Cressilia is the good night Pokémon, Darkrai is the bad one.

61. Nightshade Darkrai said on May 8, 2010, 07:15:11 PM (-07:00)

Floatzel
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I think that a bug type Great One would be a good addition to the ranks. Something based off of a butterfly or something.

And, normally I don't say anything about things like this, but sicne she is my favorite Pokemon (please bear with me) I am forced to point out that the Lunar Goddess's name is spelled C R E S S E L I A

62. LoPun said on May 9, 2010, 06:47:33 PM (-07:00)

Regigigas
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You know what they need?
First of all, a bug type legendary. We have never had one.

and second, a Omega Pokemon. since we've got alpha, and Giratina isn't the Omega, we need a Omega.

And a 666 pokemon on the pokedex list.
XD

63. RavenTheClaw said on May 10, 2010, 08:47:21 PM (-07:00)

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^ This, this is an amazing idea. <3<3 The fossisls and the other cultures.

Though I would be very interested in seeing, in particular, something in the style of Greek architecture or Roman calvary/fighting.
Do you wanna explain the architecture idea? It sounds super interesting!

64. Quadcentruo said on May 11, 2010, 12:36:32 PM (-07:00)

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Quote:
Originally Posted by LoPun View Post
You know what they need?
First of all, a bug type legendary. We have never had one.
WRONG!!

Arceus is all types! Including Pure-Flying! With the right plate at least.

65. LoPun said on May 11, 2010, 01:35:09 PM (-07:00)

Regigigas
671 posts

Quote:
Originally Posted by Quadcentruo View Post
WRONG!!

Arceus is all types! Including Pure-Flying! With the right plate at least.
Dah screw Arceus.XD I mean an actual, no plate needed, bug pokemon.
ARCEUS DOESN'T COUNT.

66. Neo Pikachu said on May 11, 2010, 01:54:05 PM (-07:00)

Volcarona
577 posts

Or it counts, just not to you LoPun. ;P

But I seriously don't believe that the Fifth generations legendary Pokemon have to be better than God. Even though Arceus is supposed to be the God of all Pokemon. So Generation V of legendary Pokemon will certainly be interesting to see. As long as they aren't completely uncreative and aren't lame, I don't have a problem with whatever types they may be.

67. LoPun said on May 11, 2010, 02:04:48 PM (-07:00)

Regigigas
671 posts

Quote:
Originally Posted by Neo Pikachu View Post
Or it counts, just not to you LoPun. ;P

But I seriously don't believe that the Fifth generations legendary Pokemon have to be better than God. Even though Arceus is supposed to be the God of all Pokemon. So Generation V of legendary Pokemon will certainly be interesting to see. As long as they aren't completely uncreative and aren't lame, I don't have a problem with whatever types they may be.
FFFFF

They can be. And they will.

but what the heck are they gonna come up with? DX They've done everything. Time, Space, Renegade, Alpha, Ocean, Sky, Beasts, Earth (the regis) they've done everything.DX

68. Shiny said on May 11, 2010, 08:40:06 PM (-07:00)

Kyurem
2,485 posts

How about a legend that eats planets for breakfast or a legend that creates planets I just randomly came up with that idea right now

69. RavenTheClaw said on May 11, 2010, 11:28:42 PM (-07:00)

Cyndaquil
27 posts

There is still a ton of other cultures they can pull from!

70. Neo Pikachu said on May 11, 2010, 11:56:41 PM (-07:00)

Volcarona
577 posts

Quote:
Originally Posted by LoPun View Post
FFFFF

They can be. And they will.

but what the heck are they gonna come up with? DX They've done everything. Time, Space, Renegade, Alpha, Ocean, Sky, Beasts, Earth (the regis) they've done everything.DX
Believe and trust me when I say that they haven't done everything LoPun. ;P

Just wait and see, there are going to be reasonable Legendary Pokemon. Doubt it will be totally random though. I'd hate for them to pull different things out of the air and use them. That would just be sad and mark the first tally towards the end of Pokemon as a whole.

71. Quadcentruo said on May 12, 2010, 11:56:25 AM (-07:00)

Giratina
3,684 posts

Quote:
Originally Posted by LoPun View Post
FFFFF

They can be. And they will.

but what the heck are they gonna come up with? DX They've done everything. Time, Space, Renegade, Alpha, Ocean, Sky, Beasts, Earth (the regis) they've done everything.DX
So... your saying something like this.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Yoshi648 View Post
What they haven't done:
-Destruction
-Light
-Sun (Cresselia would be moon)
-Fish (if that makes sense...)

Those are a few. And Earth would be more like Groudon and not the Regi's. (Steel+Ice+Rock does not = Earth)

72. RavenTheClaw said on May 13, 2010, 02:12:58 PM (-07:00)

Cyndaquil
27 posts

Quote:
Originally Posted by Quadcentruo View Post
So... your saying something like this.



What they haven't done:
-Destruction
-Light
-Sun (Cresselia would be moon)
-Fish (if that makes sense...)
-BUGS
Those are a few. And Earth would be more like Groudon and not the Regi's. (Steel+Ice+Rock does not = Earth)
^_^

73. Pichu_theworld_ruler said on May 14, 2010, 08:06:31 AM (-07:00)

Mudkip
45 posts

I would like to see a fire-water type legendary. Just a new type combination that has not been explored yet.

-Pichu

74. Madhound26 said on May 14, 2010, 08:30:35 AM (-07:00)

Servine
66 posts

they should make a 3rd Bird you knoe, Lugia,Ho-Oh and ____

75. Madhound26 said on May 14, 2010, 08:33:45 AM (-07:00)

Servine
66 posts

What about a Flying/Fighting legendary

76. Quadcentruo said on May 14, 2010, 12:14:34 PM (-07:00)

Giratina
3,684 posts

Quote:
Originally Posted by Madhound26 View Post
What about a Flying/Fighting legendary
There has yet to be a flying-fighting type.
Fighting is the only type that is not with flying yet.

77. Neo Pikachu said on May 14, 2010, 01:32:08 PM (-07:00)

Volcarona
577 posts

However, because of Staraptor being a flying type and learning a fighting type move naturally, that may be a hint that the fifth generation will have a fighting/flying type Pokemon... but who knows?

78. Darkpie said on May 14, 2010, 07:29:24 PM (-07:00)

Mudkip
41 posts

Ok a little off topic here, but a few suggestions to Pokemon creators. Pokemon will end sooner or later. Its inevitable. But it the time its here I would LOVE to see new types and a Badger Pokemon. Oh and a Dolphin perhaps? And I think that arceus was released too early. My legendary suggestion? A Rock and Lighting type. Sounds obserd but hey, what about the movie arceus that was released? Also maybe a Fire-Rock Legend. Or Fighting-Dark! But the rock legends would have special moves as the Fighting-Dark would have the slight advantage. Perhaps Lighting Rain for one, and Asteroid Fall for the other? I would love this! Listen to me geniuses of the Pokemon world! People want a good rock type Legend!

79. Buizel456 said on May 14, 2010, 08:05:33 PM (-07:00)

Haxorus
391 posts

Quote:
Originally Posted by Serenade View Post
I'd like to see a ground,water,bug, and especially flying type legendary
Bug legendary! I wonder what it'd look like

80. RavenTheClaw said on May 15, 2010, 12:19:04 AM (-07:00)

Cyndaquil
27 posts

A HUGE BEETLE/SATURNID!!!

81. Madhound26 said on May 15, 2010, 05:53:46 AM (-07:00)

Servine
66 posts

Theres nothing to make a legend about, They Ran out of ideas

82. Luxray13579 said on May 15, 2010, 06:00:26 AM (-07:00)

Shaymin
2,679 posts

They should have some really evil fighting type, or a cow legend. That would be cool!

83. RavenTheClaw said on May 15, 2010, 09:33:07 AM (-07:00)

Cyndaquil
27 posts

THERE SO MANY MORE THINGS THEY COULD DO!

84. Evil Sonic said on May 15, 2010, 05:23:17 PM (-07:00)

Joltik
15 posts

Quote:
Originally Posted by Madhound26 View Post
Theres nothing to make a legend about, They Ran out of ideas
Then they ran out of ideas for other Pokemon if they have for legendaries... There are still a bunch of animals/things that they haven't made. coughcaracalcough

85. Quadcentruo said on May 15, 2010, 07:41:43 PM (-07:00)

Giratina
3,684 posts

Quote:
Originally Posted by Madhound26 View Post
Theres nothing to make a legend about, They Ran out of ideas
Pessimistic much?

86. Nightshade Darkrai said on May 16, 2010, 08:30:05 AM (-07:00)

Floatzel
192 posts

Actually, now that I think about it if all else fails they'll probably just make redundant types. Think about it: You can nitpick the exact details of what Moltres and Entei command, but from a broader spectrum they're both basically the element of fire.

87. Quadcentruo said on May 16, 2010, 04:29:16 PM (-07:00)

Giratina
3,684 posts

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nightshade Darkrai View Post
Think about it: You can nitpick the exact details of what Moltres and Entei command, but from a broader spectrum they're both basically the element of fire.
Actually, Entei was a dream by a girl in the third movie.
But that's just one thing about it.

It really had no story behind it. Same with Moltres.

And from what you said, you could say Cresselia, Azelf, Uxie and Mespirit are all the same because they are Psychic and levitate.

88. Buizel456 said on May 16, 2010, 07:12:59 PM (-07:00)

Haxorus
391 posts

Quote:
Originally Posted by Madhound26 View Post
Theres nothing to make a legend about, They Ran out of ideas
They didn't run out of ideas, they're just starting to

(Buut, I kinda think Game Freak's running out of Ideas, I mean, if you search up "Fakemon" on dA, (DeviantART) you get so many idea's that actually are really good.)

89. LiteTheIronMan said on May 16, 2010, 10:56:33 PM (-07:00)

Shaymin
2,854 posts

Keep in mind that over 500 Pokemon were made for RBGY, and obviously a good amount of them were scrapped to pave way for 151. They keep making mounds upon mounds of Pokemon for each new gen, and in the end 100-200 of them make it.

90. KrayzeeGuy said on May 18, 2010, 03:50:01 PM (-07:00)

Charizard
120 posts

Late to the topic and most likely already said, but I find the theme in Pokémon Black and White to be hinting at the idea of an almost ying-yang scenario, which isn't far fetched considering the region this game hails from. Therfore Gamefreak is stepping away from the 'hierarchy' of legendaries, and focusing more into the depth of balance.

Personally, I think they have already introduced the legendary (Zoroark), or whatever pokémon Black version focuses on. Now most people now would say 'but it evolves'. However, my interpretation is that evolution doesn't mean it cannot be a legendary. Originally, we thought legendaries could not breed, but we have seen otherwise with Rotom and Manaphy (though Phione isn't Manaphy, it's still offspring).

91. Zega said on May 19, 2010, 09:49:14 AM (-07:00)

Linoone
97 posts

Think about it.. Why do they even have to top the other legendaries?

92. TheRagingTyranitar said on May 19, 2010, 09:52:35 AM (-07:00)

Regigigas
808 posts

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zega View Post
Think about it.. Why do they even have to top the other legendaries?
That makes total sense.
There can be legendaries who are inferior to Arceus.
Good point.

93. Levus said on May 19, 2010, 01:59:38 PM (-07:00)

Joltik
19 posts

Making a Pokemon stronger than Arceus would be ridiculous. Arceus is so over-powered it's not even funny. He has a base state of 720 while the Pokemon underneath him has 680. That's a pretty big gap. They should fill the gap and just keep Arceus as is.

94. Quadcentruo said on May 19, 2010, 02:17:31 PM (-07:00)

Giratina
3,684 posts

Quote:
Originally Posted by Levus View Post
Making a Pokemon stronger than Arceus would be ridiculous. Arceus is so over-powered it's not even funny. He has a base state of 720 while the Pokemon underneath him has 680. That's a pretty big gap. They should fill the gap and just keep Arceus as is.
You gotta keep in mind that stats don't mean everything.
Celebi is a better choice than Regigigas despite the fact Regigigas has a higher base stat total.

95. Levus said on May 19, 2010, 02:24:39 PM (-07:00)

Joltik
19 posts

Quote:
Originally Posted by Quadcentruo View Post
You gotta keep in mind that stats don't mean everything.
Celebi is a better choice than Regigigas despite the fact Regigigas has a higher base stat total.
Yes but this is due to the fact that Regigigas has an awful moveset.

Arceus is every type and has some of the cheapest moves to date. Making a Pokemon stronger then that would just be stupid.

96. Searinox said on May 23, 2010, 03:56:03 AM (-07:00)

Zoroark
251 posts

Adding another 720 base stat would be weird, and on par with God it would also feel really awkward. Best they don't and just add more 680s. I'm personally hoping for more classical physicals like rock, fighting, poison and bug. We don't have any bugs in legends. Maybe among the event pokemon at least?

97. Dilster3000 said on May 23, 2010, 04:25:20 AM (-07:00)

Haxorus
314 posts

Remember the days of Mewtwo?
Did other Legendaries top him? No.
So why need to top Arceus? There is no point in topping God.
I just want to see sexy 5th Generation Legendaries.

98. Pichu_theworld_ruler said on May 23, 2010, 11:40:53 AM (-07:00)

Mudkip
45 posts

Or, we could be seeing the rise of a Pokemon 'triforce' per-se. Arceus created the worlds, Mew 'created' the Pokemon, and maybe the next gen we will see the emergence of something that has 'created' the willpower or something like that. I kid, I kid, or do I... ... ...

Whatever, I'm out.

-Pichu

99. OMGITSJAD said on May 23, 2010, 12:24:19 PM (-07:00)

Shaymin
2,490 posts

Created the willpower?
*looks at Mespirit*

100. TheRagingTyranitar said on May 23, 2010, 12:31:03 PM (-07:00)

Regigigas
808 posts

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pichu_theworld_ruler View Post
'created' the willpower
Mesprit says hi!

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