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So this is a thread regarding what we as the fans want from the third game (Pokemon Grey or whatever they decide to name it) in the Pokemon Black/White series (fifth generation).
As long time fans of the series, we know that every generation has had one on the handhelds. Yellow had enhanced colors, a few trainer changes, and Pikachu followed you as the main ones. Crystal introduced the move tutor as well as the Battle Tower and a change in the story regarding the three dogs. Emerald featured a different story ending and introduced the Battle Frontier as well as expanded on the Move Tutor. Platinum (my favorite next to Yellow) created a Distorted World as an alternate ending as well as beefed up their Battle Frontier and included many cosmetic changes.
I didn't include all the small/gimmicky changes they did in each one, but we all know them and they've usually been included in then new games the following generation to some extent.
So my question is what do you expect/want in the next version of the Unova series? What do you think will be added? Is there something that will be changed this next generation?
On the top of my list are move tutors again. I want Dark Pulse and Superpower so bad and it's so frustrating how they're not easy to get this generation.
So, on that note, post your thoughts.
It would be cool to see kyrem as the main character like rayquaza was in emerald. But i would like to see some sort move tutor(s) maybe get heatwave or earthpower for some 5th gen. pokemon i want them to learn but really cant at all.
1 – [TRDRS]PokeTraderBlack & White were great games, but I feel as if they didn't do enough with Unova, which I hope that Grey covers.
Just a basic list of some features I'd love in Grey.
9 – 7dewott8, Shadow, Leaftail, GalliumGrant, 11Trident11, [TRDRS]PokeTrader, Justjack91, Firo, Aquablast1) The single most important thing I want to see in the upcoming title is updated Wi-Fi options; I want a 6 vs. 6 option as well as automatic elevation to level 100, just like the previous titles.
2) The other change which seems almost essential to B/W is post-game modification. As soon as I was done with the plot, there was suddenly nothing left to do except for catching legendaries and filling up the Pokédex. More exciting stuff should be added.
3) As the person above me stated, we need gym leader rematches in the new title. I found it strange that B/W did not allow players to battle against gym leaders with stronger teams after the plot ended.
2 – Leaftail, GalliumGrantGive us trainer rematches and gym leader rematches.
Give the E4 five pokemon each on the first battle.
There should also be an extra side quest post credits.
2 – [TRDRS]PokeTrader, Firo|
Black & White were great games, but I feel as if they didn't do enough with Unova, which I hope that Grey covers.
Just a basic list of some features I'd love in Grey.
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1) The single most important thing I want to see in the upcoming title is updated Wi-Fi options; I want a 6 vs. 6 option as well as automatic elevation to level 100, just like the previous titles.
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8 – 7dewott8, GalliumGrant, Shadow, [TRDRS]PokeTrader, Justjack91, Firo, Aquablast, Dark SonicI agree with pretty much all of these, but there are two things I'd like which haven't been mentioned yet (except for like, ONE YouTuber in which I totally agree with him).
- A sound test (unlocked after you beat the main storyline of the game)
- and Multiple save files
3 – Firo, PokeMaster, NingamerI would like to see a thing where you get to customize the main character like in the yugioh games on the DS, or at least if you change the trainer in your Trainercard to the one you picked to walk around with.
If they did bring back the pokemon walking behind thing, at least have a off/on opition in case it gets boring to see this.
A place like in Firered/leafgreen, where you get to travel to a small set of islands.
That would be cool take a plane somewhere. !! oh and have it where you can battle N after he leaves (Where ever he went) and a team of his at lv's 85-90 and have his legendary be at lv100 (If he gets one)
1 – Justjack91
1 – Justjack91You know if they do add N as a post-e4 rematch, and if they dont include the traveling to another place thing, at least have it where you battle him either in the left-hand of the map (Cause nothing is there in B/W) or battle somewhere of the map. (Like the shinjo ruins)
1 – Masterge77-A better post-game experience, since the one in BW is really not entertaining.
-A lot of cool moves gone missing this generation, which I like them to re-add, whether as Move Tutor or TMs.
-WiFi options to be updated to the one we had in the past generation.
-Give a good plot behind the two trios, since both are cool and can be enhanced with a side-plot, like the one for Heatran.
-The menu appears again in touch screen, not the useless (I forgot its name).
-Pokémon follow the trainer.
-More triple battles and rotation battles.
-A well-made Battle Frontier, which is challenging and interesting.
-Gym leaders rematches.
I'd wanna see these things:
-Old pokémon in the main storyline such as Pikachu and Meowth
-You can catch all 3 weather trio members in this game
-Chansey is like Audino and you can find it commonly in shaking grass for a ton of exp
-gym leader and trainer rematches
-released in japan in 2013 since next year the RS remakes SHOULD be coming out next year in Japan
I don't think anyone has said this yet but this is about the main thing I want:
~A AUTO-LEVEL ON WI-FI!!!
4 – 7dewott8, LucarioMario, Reuniclus, RK-9What I'd want to see in Grey:
- Your first gym battle against Chili, Cress, and Cilan should be a triple/rotation battle of all the elemental monkeys.
- Gym leader rematches
- Return of the VS seeker
- More areas to use the move "Dive" in. (or more water routes in general)
- A new form for Kyurem.
- Make the Elite 4 have 5 pokemon when you first battle them instead of 4 to make it more challenging.
- Being able to battle N after beating the game.
- More berries should be available to obtain besides the ones from Rangers.
- More of a backstory of Lunacosa Town.
- Being able to catch both Reshiram and Zekrom (after catching Kyurem).
3 – Shiny, [TRDRS]PokeTrader, Masterge77Though in a rush, I agree with the Sage on Route 17... I wanna see N confront Ghetsis.
2 – DashArmy, Masterge77*More legendaries
*Ability to go to liberty garden as soon as you get to Castelia city.
*More tripple battles.
*Expansion to 210 pokemon in game.
*Entire unava reagin in main game
*Battle kyurem at dragonspiral tower
*sound test
*Team maker for wi-fi battles
1 – Masterge77|
-released in japan in 2013 since next year the RS remakes SHOULD be coming out next year in Japan
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This is what I think.
- A chance to get one of the starters from the other generations.
- More Non-Unova Pokemon (They didn't have Pikachu being able to catch wild.)
- More Secret stuff in the game when you beat it.
- Kyurem to be the main character with an Alternate Form.
- Being able to rebattle each gym leader.
- Gray Town (since in Black there is Black City and White there is White Forest.)
- More of a background story of Team Plasma.
- Being able to catch both Reshiram and Zekrom, and anyother Pokemon that have a opposite.
- Being able to actually have a Dad.
- Being able to travel to different regions (I doubt that but still it would be cool.)
- Being able to walk with your Pokemon.
3 – 7dewott8, Justjack91, GalliumGrant-New form of some Pokemon
-Gym rematches
-Sage Battles
-Bring back Pokemon following you
-More postgame
-Water routes please!
-Finding out what happened to N would be nice
1 – Leaftail|
Due to the fact Lucas/Dawn had beaten Cynthia upon fighting her in Undella Town, it takes place after HG/SS/D/P/Pt, which those take place after R/S/E/FR/LG, which means Hoenn remakes would cause an issue with time-space. You probably said tl;dr, They take place in different times.
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Hm... If I had to pick some, it'd be these:
-More of a post-game story
(Sort of like in D/P/Pt.)
-Kyurem is the mascot, and has an alternate forme
-An elaboration on Lacunosa Town's legend and the Tao Trio's legend in general
(Is Kyurem just some monster from a comet? Or is it indeed a Dragon Corpse?)
-Re-battle-able Gym Leaders
-A Double Battle with N against Ghetsis post-game
-N is re-battle-able as well, with stronger Pokémon
-A Battle Frontier, separate from the Battle Subway
-Alternate formes for a few Pokémon
(I don't know which ones, but it's be cool to see.)
-Reshiram and Zekrom BOTH catch-able post-game
-A back-story for Keldeo and Meloetta
-Battling the Seven Sages
-More triple/rotation battles, maybe implemented in the battle against the Striaton Leaders
-Stronger Alder, because he was very easy to beat
-Somehow implementing Arceus, because it's Poké-God and will probably have an event
-Genesect event? ![]()
-Stronger/more varied Pokémon in Team Plasma
(Because let's face it, I'm sure I'm not the only one tired of beating their Watchogs.)
-More Wi-Fi battle options
-Beast-looking box-art, featuring Kyurem's alternate forme
(Like Platinum had Giratina's Origin Forme.)
That's all I can think of for now... Not a bad list, if I do say so myself. ^_^
2 – Shadow, Leaftailhttp://nintendo3dsblog.com/there-wil...o-pokemon-gray
could this help? i found it when googleing for it
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http://nintendo3dsblog.com/there-wil...o-pokemon-gray could this help? i found it when googleing for it |
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http://nintendo3dsblog.com/there-wil...o-pokemon-gray
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1 – JC|
1) The single most important thing I want to see in the upcoming title is updated Wi-Fi options; I want a 6 vs. 6 option as well as automatic elevation to level 100, just like the previous titles.
2) The other change which seems almost essential to B/W is post-game modification. As soon as I was done with the plot, there was suddenly nothing left to do except for catching legendaries and filling up the Pokédex. More exciting stuff should be added. 3) As the person above me stated, we need gym leader rematches in the new title. I found it strange that B/W did not allow players to battle against gym leaders with stronger teams after the plot ended. |
1 – Firo...If you ask me, Grey needs:
Keldeo, Genosect and Melotta events! (Not just some lame event that you have to go to a game shop to get said pokemon!)
More types for Genosect!
Zoroark, Victini and Zorua being able to be caught in the wild. (..Instead of missing the Wi-Fi events/Game Shop event for 'em..)
C-Gear with more functions, or alternitively, no C-Gear at all.
More backstory into Lanosca Town and the Village Gate (..I think that's what they were called..)
More story added to N and his childhood (We don't really see much, other than his room (Creepy theme..) and the intro flashback.)
..And everything everyone else mentioned.
You know what I want to see out of Gray Version? IT NOT BEING CALLED GRAY VERSION.
I'm sorry, but that's just a lame title. Why not something that relates to Kyurem, who's most likely going to be the mascot, and call it Clear Version or something?
Either way, I'd like to see a little extra to the story of N, legitimate access to both legendaries, and more Triple/Rotation battles. I mean, what's the point of having a triple-gym-leader and you only getting to battle ONE of them in the story?
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http://nintendo3dsblog.com/there-wil...o-pokemon-gray
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I actually like them not including it, even if rematches are fun. Knowing that you'll only ever face a Gym Leader once not only makes the battle more fun, but the encounter more memorable as well. They also made the Gym Leaders characters in their own right this time around, instead of simple gameplay mechanics, which I loved and hope they continue to do.
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1 – Magmaster12
In your own words..Quote:
Bull
Crap
I'm sorry, but do you play Pokémon so that you have memorable matches with fictional characters? I sure as hell know I don't, I play Pokémon for the excitement of a close fight, during the fight and at no other time.
BULL CRAP.
It's a video game. How the 'hell' can it be exciting?
That's not exciting. That's called being underleveled. I do agree with the 'fun' bit, however. Pokemon is a game for ENTERTAINMENT. Not excitement. Or so I think.. Now, enough off topic-ness.Quote:
Originally Posted by NingamerIn my Yellow at the moment I'm fighting against the Pokémon League with a team of level 37 - 45s, slowly getting further and further each time, developing my tactics for the most efficient approach possible. This is technically re-matching, since I fight Lorelei pretty much every time, and since the matches are always so close they're a lot more fun, and that goes for every single battle, not just the first one.
2 – Firo, LeaftailSome gym leader team changes would be nice.
First battle should be a triple battle team up with Bianca and Cheren against the Straiton City trio.
Give Lenora a Cinccino or Audino.
Burgh's team is fine.
Elesa should get a Tynamo or Eelektrik.
Give Clay a Stunfisk or Golett.
Milstraiton gym's trainers need to use more diverse pokemon enough said.
Get rid of her Unfezant and give her a Archeops, Rufflet or Vullaby.
Give Brycen a Vanilluxe and a better moveset for his Beartic.
The final gym leader should be a new character and also have a Zweilous.
The E4 should also have 5 pokemon.
Give Shauntel a second Cofagrigus.
Get rid of Grimsley's Scrafty and give him a Zoroark and Mandibuzz.
Give Caitlin a Beheeyem.
Give Marshal a Scrafty.
4 – 7dewott8, Reuniclus, Leaftail, Justjack91Here's the teams I wanna see:
1. You face all 3 trio badge leaders in a row, if you loose then you start over
2. Lenora- Watchog, Bouffalant, Herdier
3. Burgh- Scolipede, Dwebble,Leavanny
4. Elesa- Zebstrika, Tynamo, Pikachu
5. Clay- Golem, Excadrill,Krokorok
6. Skyla- Archeops, Swanna, Pelipper, and Altaria
7. Brycen- Beartic, Vanilluxe, Glalie,Froslass
8. Drayden (Since Iris is away)- Druddigon, Haxorus, Zweilous, Kingdra
Elite 4 (Round 1)
Shauntal: Cofagrigus, Banette, Gengar, Golurk, Chandelure
Grimsley- Zweilous, Bisharp, Houndoom, Sharpedo, Umbreon
Katilyn- Musharna, Espeon, Hypno, Alakazam, and Sigilyph
Marshal- Scrafty, Machamp, Conkeldurr, Lucario, and Heracross
Alder- Volcarona, Solrock, Bouffalnt, Luxray, Druddigon, and Lilligant
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Here's the teams I wanna see:
1. You face all 3 trio badge leaders in a row, if you loose then you start over 2. Lenora- Watchog, Bouffalant, Herdier, Chansey 3. Burgh- Scolipede, Dwebble,Leavanny 4. Elesa- Zebstrika, Tynamo, Pikachu 5. Clay- Golem, Excadrill,Krokorok 6. Skyla- Archeops, Swanna, Pelipper, and Altaria 7. Brycen- Beartic, Vanilluxe, Glalie,Froslass 8. Drayden (Since Iris is away)- Druddigon, Haxorus, Zweilous, Kingdra Elite 4 (Round 1) Shauntal: Cofagrigus, Banette, Gengar, Golurk, Chandelure Grimsley- Zweilous, Bisharp, Houndoom, Sharpedo, Umbreon Katilyn- Musharna, Espeon, Hypno, Alakazam, and Sigilyph Marshal- Scrafty, Machamp, Conkeldurr, Lucario, and Heracross Alder- Volcarona, Solrock, Bouffalnt, Luxray, Druddigon, and Lilligant |
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Here's the teams I wanna see:
1. You face all 3 trio badge leaders in a row, if you loose then you start over 2. Lenora- Watchog, Bouffalant, Herdier, Chansey 3. Burgh- Scolipede, Dwebble,Leavanny 4. Elesa- Zebstrika, Tynamo, Pikachu 5. Clay- Golem, Excadrill,Krokorok 6. Skyla- Archeops, Swanna, Pelipper, and Altaria 7. Brycen- Beartic, Vanilluxe, Glalie,Froslass 8. Drayden (Since Iris is away)- Druddigon, Haxorus, Zweilous, Kingdra Elite 4 (Round 1) Shauntal: Cofagrigus, Banette, Gengar, Golurk, Chandelure Grimsley- Zweilous, Bisharp, Houndoom, Sharpedo, Umbreon Katilyn- Musharna, Espeon, Hypno, Alakazam, and Sigilyph Marshal- Scrafty, Machamp, Conkeldurr, Lucario, and Heracross Alder- Volcarona, Solrock, Bouffalnt, Luxray, Druddigon, and Lilligant |
5 – The Spirit of Time, Leaftail, Justjack91, Alakazamaster, Shadow|
I really don't like this.
Why should the gym leaders have pokemon from regions were the other gym leaders use them? Wouldn't that seem a bit repetitive? They always do that. Wouldn't it be nice to see some good ol' pokémon anyway? Also Lenora's team is way to hard for that early in the game most people can't even defeat her current team. |
| Well, she only had 2 pokémon. And plus, she'd be even more of challenge. That's what the third game is supposed to do, provide a bigger challenge. |
1 – Justjack91|
It took me three tries to get past Lenora on my first try, but I agree the third game is supposed to provide a bit more of a challenge. I'd like to see Kyurem play a bigger role in the third game, or a chance to get both Zekrom and Reshiram without trading. Like how in Platinum you could get Dialga and Palkia, along with Giratina.
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Personally, I want something new, original. Not to say a new form of Kyurem or a Battle Frontier wouldn't be cool, but I want a game changer. Kinda like D/P's, but more throughout the entire game. I also would want the towns that vary from game to game to be somewhere in the middle, or maybe even have half the town be modern and one be retro.
1 – 7dewott8|
umm... well, I want to see older pokémon in the third game before the national dex so the gym leaders and elite four will have more of a variety. ANd JustJack, those are pre national dex. It would be much more challenging than BW at the very least and Alder is post game.
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Originally Posted by Justjack91
I would say re-matches are fine for the teams you suggested, and a little level twicking with "slight" adjustment to teams (still Unova and not major Pokemon though) would be fine, but your idea for complete team makeovers in the story itself makes the fifth generation (no offense) unoriginal.
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"Wild Zubat appeared" vs "Wild Woobat appeared"
Except the latter didn't happen every five steps, and Swoobat is adorable.
Another thing that was actually expected by me in BW: 3DS support. I know the mechanics for games are different these days, but I don't yet know why they can't make 3DS advancements (3D support, StreetPass tied to the console rather than being independent, etc) and still support backwards compatibility with the other DS models. At least, they managed to do that for Gold and Silver, with real color support on Gameboy Color and whatever else that I admit I am rambling on about.
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Well, you remember the rematches in Emerald, right? They usually had some National Dex pokemon on their team. The Kanto Gym Leaders had a lot of Gen III and IV pokemon on their teams in HGSS, as well. I think that Gym Leaders in Clear Version (what I think it should be called, anyway) should have their pokemon fully evolved for rematches, as well as some National Dex pokemon on their team by the same token.
Also, Alder should have at least 1 revamped team after you beat him for the first time. Just throwing that out there. |
I want there to be some sort of contests, or some other way to use the Poffin/Pokeblock berries that have absolutely no use (unless there's something I don't know about) in B/W. A way to transfer berries from the game to the DW would be amazing, too, so that one could produce extra berries of ones obtained in-game.
I also wish that they hadn't made it so easy to fight the E4 and N, and then suddenly you walk into the new area unlocked by finishing the story and the Pokemon are nearly twice the levels you needed to get through in the first place. That was not a fun experience, since I tried my best to not spoil anything TOO major and had no idea that would happen :<
Also I would love for there to be more event Pokemon, more wild previous-gen Pokemon post-story, rather than just the swarms, and a different way to keep your city/forest/whatever Grey has nice and full of Pokemon/trainers so you don't NEED another person/two DS's and games to not have an empty place. I have two DS's and both versions, but I hate when things like that are two-player only D:
2 – 7dewott8, Justjack91Let's see... what I'd like in the third version?
A version of Battle Frontier tailored specifically for Gen V.
A sound test mode for listening pleasure.
Increased battle graphics detail.
An instant text speed option.
Better item arrangement (Items displayed as icons on a full-screen grid with tabs on top?)
Pseudo-surround support (Could really help with the audio - the stereo separation isn't good with just the speakers)
The ability to access and use menu functions without having to press X or A
Walking Pokémon
Greater variance on overworld graphics
3DS enhancements, if possible, even if it means ditching support for DS
Expanded story, way more than what Pt did to DP
...Wow, I think I dream a lot.
1 – GalliumGrant|
Let's see... what I'd like in the third version?
3DS enhancements, if possible, even if it means ditching support for DS |
2 – Firo, GalliumGrant|
I'd rather not that happen. Otherwise, people might be forced to buy the 3DS just so they can play pokemon. I'd rather not have the 3DS become too major of a gaming system.
A few other thing I thought might be better: When the Gym leaders come to battle the sages, the elite four shouldn't really be sitting on their asses like it's a normal thing. They should really come help. Also, maybe Ghetsis could have Zekrom and N could have Reshiram. This would make the game even harder. |
2 – Justjack91, GalliumGrant|
I'd rather not that happen. Otherwise, people might be forced to buy the 3DS just so they can play pokemon. I'd rather not have the 3DS become too major of a gaming system.
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...Why?
People were forced to buy the DS if they wanted to play Diamond and Pearl. How is this any different? *cough* Other than the fact that D/P came out when the DS was 3 years old... But still, there were a lot of Pokemon games released for the DS when it was really young. (And anyway, by the time Gray comes out in America, the 3DS would be at least 2 years old.) Also, Nintendo announced a while ago that they have switched focus from the DS to the 3DS, so I find it pretty unlikely they would even let Game Freak make Gray on the DS... I want Gray to be for the 3DS. IMO, the graphics in B/W are great compared to D/P, but I know they can be greatly improved. I want to see Unova in 3D, with Gamecube-like graphics. And I don't want to wait until 10 years from now when they make the inevitable remakes. |
Wow, this is a hard topic here. Would it be better to encourage people to buy the third game on the 3DS and add a main stream Pokemon game on it before sixth gen, or is it safer (and probably more affordable still) to just keep it on the older generation DS and lose the market that would be gained on the 3DS?
This seems like it almost merits a separate topic altogether as they are in a tough spot with this generation in this regard. They've had TWO generations of Pokemon on one handheld (albeit two very good generations). Diamond and Pearl got their Platinum on the same handheld at the right time. With the 3DS out though it's a tough call what they plan to do with the third installment of this generation.
I still half wish they waited on releasing the handheld. This way we could have confidently predict what they would have done next.
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Wow, this is a hard topic here. Would it be better to encourage people to buy the third game on the 3DS and add a main stream Pokemon game on it before sixth gen, or is it safer (and probably more affordable still) to just keep it on the older generation DS and lose the market that would be gained on the 3DS?
This seems like it almost merits a separate topic altogether as they are in a tough spot with this generation in this regard. They've had TWO generations of Pokemon on one handheld (albeit two very good generations). Diamond and Pearl got their Platinum on the same handheld at the right time. With the 3DS out though it's a tough call what they plan to do with the third installment of this generation. I still half wish they waited on releasing the handheld. This way we could have confidently predict what they would have done next. |
4 – The Spirit of Time, Leaftail, Justjack91, Shadow|
You know what I want to see out of Gray Version? IT NOT BEING CALLED GRAY VERSION.
I'm sorry, but that's just a lame title. Why not something that relates to Kyurem, who's most likely going to be the mascot, and call it Clear Version or something? |
-It would be great if there was more to do than just battle trainers and catch pokemon 24/7 after beating the game.
-Also mabye a way to rematch trainers and gyms instead of just hanging around in Nimbasa alot
-A little bit more work on pokemon sprites other than the unova ones
-Make there a reason to have trainer personalities.
-Also more pokemon can come in swarms.
-Battle the other 6 sages before you arrest them
-Make it possible to get frilish earlier in game.
-Old rod, good rod, why werent they in this game?
-Battle N after beating game.
3 – 7dewott8, Leaftail, GalliumGrantGive Glameow and Stunky an in game location!
They haven't been available in a game since Diamond and Pearl, and considering they were version exclusives that's very bad.
1 – 7dewott8Okay I just got a 3DS and played Black and White on it and it defiantly looks crude compared to the 3DS graphics. I think Gray/Gray should be on the 3DS because the DS is pretty much dead and it would look so cool in 3D. Pokedex 3D looks like what the pokemon should look like in Grey. I know it's only the third game and it'd be a big step up, but they only released BW on the DS because the 3DS wasn't in stores yet.
1 – GalliumGranti want to be able to battle trainers and gym leaders again like in heartgold and soulsilver
1 – GalliumGrantI've been thinking about it, and I thought about Grey in regards to the Dragon trio of this generation. I'm thinking that Team Plasma will capture BOTH Reshiram AND Zekrom, and you are left to capture Kyurem.
Also, I'd like to have Pokemon Contests back. But I thought that they could make the Musical performance the appeal round, and then continue on the contest as normal.
And of course, I'd like more opportunities to catch more legendaries. None of the legends this generation were that difficult to catch...
1 – gokugurl11Since the thread beckons speculation of a rehash and we're instead getting sequels, this thread is no longer useful, not to mention we now have a whole board dedicated to speculating about the upcoming games.
3 – SyracuvatTenlii, GalliumGrant, Firo