NOTE: These methods are only being tested, and may be changed an tweaked to work better.

You may have noticed that in the last few days some members on Victory Road have had their avatars and signatures taken away, and their usergroup changed to "purgatory". This is part of a new method of enforcing the rules more efficiently that the staff are testing:

Infraction Points now have a purpose. In case you don't know, whenever a rule is broken and a moderator deems it worthy of an infraction, an infraction is given out with a number of points tied to it; The more serious the offence the more points (From 0 points to 4 points, with a moderator being able to give more points should he/she feel the offence is more serious). Once a certain amount of time has passed, these points expire and no longer count towards your total amount of active infraction points.

The new system that has been put in place works around infractions and infraction points. Should your total amount of active infraction points reach 2 or more points you will be put in purgatory, where many privileges are taken away (Such as avatars and signatures) and all your posts must first be moderated before they appear on the forums. Moderated posts are still subject to the rules, so if any violations are made within these posts, you may still receive an infraction.

When enough of your points expire to take you below 2 active infraction points your account will become a regular account again.

Should your total amount of active infraction points reach or exceed 5 points you will be banned from Victory Road. As with purgatory, when enough points expire to take you below 5 active infraction points you will be unbanned and put into purgatory or become a regular user again, depending on the amount of active infraction points you still have left.

We hope this new method of dealing with troublemakers will make Victory Road a nicer and friendlier place! Please post any questions or comments below.

Hopefully the moderators won't abuse this actually.

I like the idea and think it should be enforced in every way. Think of it like this: you're a child and your mother takes away your favorite toy because you're misbehaving. Kind of like that, removing privileges sort of thing.

I think this is a wonderful idea. I just don't want people complaining about the rules. As long as the moderators don't go away giving points willy-nilly, I'm good. Not that I'm worried about getting points, I'm just looking out for fellow VR members.

And just a suggestion, how about posting limits? If you are in purgatory, you only get x posts per day, or something like that.

WHat if a Moderator gives an infraction that they dont deserve?

Nah i was just asking.

I think we should give the users more chances, on the PokeCommunity forums, you can have up to 9 infraction points, so I think that once someone breaks the rules, they have a total of 9 chances, much like the 9 lives of a cat, so one minor offense costs you one point, while more major offenses cost two or three points, once they have a total of 6 points, they lose their priveleges until the points expire. I think this is a better idea because losing priveleges in only 2 points is not enough time, what do you think?

We've been giving everyone a free pass to do virtually whatever they want for the past three years. I think that's enough chances, personally.

It seems like if you get tons of people in the purgatory group, that'd be a pain to moderate all those posts. Wouldn't it just be easier to ban them for a short while instead and thus making for less mod work as people break the rules?

Honestly, I think 2 points is ridiculous; a single infraction can set it off. Secondly, Bulbagarden (which is/was stricter than here) gives a 2-day ban at 10 points, whereas here you get a ban of at least like a month at 5 points.

I would never ever abuse infraction... Yoshi does not have 100 from me.

I hope i don't get an infractions for abuseing infractions.

That image was from when VR used to run on phpBB. In vBulletin, you cannot infract admins.

Monster.

What about the Purgatory User have a limit of how much they can post in the Fun Board per day, and a limit of used of the VRIM per day?

To be honest we (Or at least I) don't really have a lot of work to do around the forums, so I don't mind any extra work. Besides, at the moment there aren't many people in Purgatory, I think we can manage for now.

(I do, however, think that 2 points is a little low. Maybe 3 or 4.)

hmm... sounds a little rough. But it certainly makes me want to respect the rules even more.

I think I'm more so afraid of a Mod abusing it. Although I haven't exactly seen an incident in this site where a mod actually abused their power. I guess I have nothing to worry about. I haven't got an infraction yet and I plan to keep it that way, thank you! ^_^

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Originally Posted by Nytz I think I'm more so afraid of a Mod abusing it. Although I haven't exactly seen an incident in this site where a mod actually abused their power. I guess I have nothing to worry about. I haven't got an infraction yet and I plan to keep it that way, thank you! ^_^

• Jared
• FreezeWarp
• Cat333Pokémon
• LiteTheIronMan
• Some guy who had Pikachu in his name (I forget)
• Some might argue JC, Randoguy, OMGITSJAD (I dunno, I can't look anything up for those three )

Don't worry. I'm making sure this place doesn't end up like Zam.

Thanks. I hope it doesn't because I already grew loyal to the members here and fond of the site itself. I don't hang out in the VRIM Chat much, but I do hang out in the forums a lot. I set up a foundation within the forums and the social groups that I didn't think would even work at first, since it didn't work in any other site I've been to except for here. One of the reasons I love it here is for that reason. Team Lunacy finally is born, and the birthplace is VR. I would hate for it to become like Zam, no offense to any who was from Zam... cause that's like criticizing myself. I conclude saying to all the mods here, I respect you all, and keep up the good work. I will do my part as well through my clan and with the help of my friends I made here, we will bring more members here, or at least keep the members interested in being here. Thank you.

~Nytz~

I only abused such power with Rando, JAD, and anybody else that trolled me...

I'm really glad to see increased rule enforcement through this way. You guys did a lot of work while I was absent, and the end product sounds theoretically great to me. Ignoring the fact that 2 points is a little too low (in my opinion), I'm optimistic about how this will work out.

(P.S: I'll provide a detailed feedback once I return, hopefully.)

Yeah, 2 points is too low and there's too much of a gap between purgatory and ban.

I'll just toss in my own two heavily moderated cents

I like the idea to have infractions cause bans at a certain level, and I certainly feel 5 point is a good limit considering how few infractions are handed out around here.

Purgatory, however, is just silly. You're basically just censoring users after one or two infractions, but making it seem less drastic by not banning the user. In the end however, it's the same effect as a ban. The user is censored for a set amount of time and loses certain privileges.

To repeat, I entirely understand the point of purgatory. I just think it's weird to have a "middle ground" between regular users and banned users, as while it does the same things a ban does, it doesn't follow the essential part of bans; the user in purgatory will keep posting, and will probably keep posting as they were before they were infracted. The point of a punishment is to prevent bad behavior, but purgatory is just hiding bad behavior.

So yeah, Swampy away.

Ok, sorry to be such a noob but, I never got what "Troll" Meant... Can someone tell me?

I dont think i understand yet...

EDIT: Are you just posting to call me a dolt? If so, backoff. Lol

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Ok maybe urbandictionary will help

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=trolling

lol that's because you're the one that did all the trolling and **** before we all went soft

It's amazing what this thread has become.

This is VR. You honestly expected it to stay on topic?

One question. Can you post youtube videos here? I know this place is strict on stuff from other sites so that's why I ask.

Youtube videos are perfectly fine as long as they abide by the rules.

Oh. Nah, I ain't advertising. But should I do something wrong, please warn me before infracting me, Mods, Admins. And I would never post anything inappropriate.

Yes, I am sure they will Warn you first, then infract you next time you do something wrong.

They were all for random things not related to this inf

also they were during the period I acted like an idiot

who are you to complain RK

I've had more infractions than warnings

and only one of them was when I was acting like an idiot

"My infractions are more unfair than your infractions"

I work on reports. If someone does something wrong, please report it (the [!] icon in the top right corner of a post, or via PM). Don't go complaining because the moderators miss something. This is a large site, and staff can overlook things.

Actually, I'm suprised this isn't locked yet. I think the point has been made, but hey, what do I know? *Shrugs*

*close*

Oh, wait. I'm not a mod. *sighs*

Go ask a mod then. Then the mod will close it with their epic powers.

well, I was just sayin... I mean, it's up to the mods, for real.

The amount of off-topic is just asking for a lock, really.