Is it just me, or have we been without tourney for a while? Victory Road had a massive Super Smash Bros. Brawl tourney last December, so having another one just makes sense! Below are the rules that I had in mind, based on previous Brawl tournaments, so feel free to comment or question any of them if you feel the need to do so.

Type of Battle: 1 vs. 1. 3 stock. 8 minutes time. Best two out of three. This is widely considered the most fair type of battle, so as such this tourney will operate under those rules.

No Hacking or Glitching: This is an easy one! Just play fair and everything is fine.

Character Selection Rules: Any character can be picked, so don't worry about that.

List of Fair Stages:

Battlefield
Castle Siege
Delfino Plaza
Final Destination
Halberd
Lylat Cruise
Pokémon Stadium
Smashville
Yoshi’s Island
Brinstar
Frigate Orpheon
Green Greens
Norfair
Pictochat
Pokémon Stadium 2
Rainbow Cruise

The stages have been picked because they don't rely heavily on luck, and are generally balanced to all characters. Stages like Wario Ware can provide invincibility which is a huge game turner, and Summit is unfair to characters with tether recovery. If you feel a stage should be added or removed, feel free to say so, naturally giving reasons why you think it should be allowed.

Item Rule: Thanks to a 9-6 poll on December 10, it has been established that items are banned. There is no need to discuss items being usable anymore, because they just aren't.


Well, those are the main rules! The tourney's date is still being thought about, since the last Saturday of the month is Christmas Day. If you think any rules should be added or modified, please don't hesitate to say something!

YAY! Another one! It compensates the fact my Brawl disc broke a year ago and got a new one!
So, all I have to say is this: ADD ONETT.
And wouldn't it be more Tournament like if you tested their skills without items?

skills =/= items

Derp. :V Its just whoever gets said item first basically. But people were complaining due to the lack of items last time. Im not gonna vote because im strictly IRL tourneys now.(Because its incredibly easy to abuse wifi lag by spamming brick wall attacks like with zelda or lucario and of course Metaknight) but if you people that like items don't get em, try using diddy. Hes considered really good competitively because of his banana shenanigans. =w=

Onnets considered illegal because certain characters can do infinites on it. =X As long as no one here knows how to do them though then its all good. =w=b but then again, up to you guys.

Oh um, and if any yoshi players are reading this, go green greens! Its probably yoshis best course. He can camp with eggs and U-smash on wifi on that stage. :V

Also I think bob-ombs should be banned incase items are allowed. Seriously, how many times have ya been minding your own business when one spawns right on top of you and explodes? X_X

EDIT: Oh boy, one more thing. On green greens ALOT of characters can do infinites against the walls. Now, tectonically this is allowed in real competitive tourneys, however your only allowed to do them up until 300%. I'll let you guys decide if infinites are allowed to that point, but honestly I think its incredibly gay. :V

Woo! Another Brawl tourney. Hope I can make it this time. For the items I don't really care much. I think Green Greens should be ban because people can camp there and the bomb in the blocks could be an hazard.

Yea, actually when green greens was considered legalized, some member of the brawl backroom staff were demodded for legalizing it...or so its rumored thats why they were. But the infinites on the stage heavily favor certain characters...mostly Dedede. :V

I would very much like to participate in this tourney even though Melee is a far superior game and I'll probably be free on [whenever this tourney is] so that'll work. As long as it's like the 31st or something.

And I support no items. Especially no Bob-ombs. Those are [CENSORED] annoying.

Items are a no no, and once you guys decide on a date, I'll let you know if I can participate or not. But I'm trying to get back into brawl so I really want to join this.

Yay! A tournament I can actually participate in! We should probably hold it on a weekday after most of us are on Christmas break. As for items, if we have any it should be limited to either smash balls or pokeballs on low.

Tournumate you say? I shall be partcicpating!

..or not... depending on the date...
Anyhoo, items you say? Hm..... well, depends on what you want. Just a "casual" tournumate, not all comeptitive, just for fun. Or, super all out omega serious tournumate!It's really up to you.
Also, I fail at spelling tournumate.

I just noticed that my vote for Yes on Prop Items just made it an even 50-50 between the votes. :I

Leave the items on so that more casual players would be open to participate, but ban items people can come to a general consensus to ban.

Here's something we could do- a compromise?(Typo?)

There would be two different tourneys- one for items, one not. The workings would all the same, and then, the two winners from both sides would fight each other, with no items. Would it work?

I'll join

I voted no on items because i find items to be a hassle and a waste of time getting to them just to have no effect.

I also agree with Quad on his ideas for the stages to be banned.

One more thing; a date needs to be settled because we can get the applicants to verify if that will work or not. If some days don't work, find a day where the most applicants can make it. I for one can't make the 24th, 25th, or 26th. Just letting you know.

I'll join if it isn't too late. I just got my internet back up and working

You see Lite, all that would make sense if you were playing by yourself or your opponent didn't want to attack you. It's kinda hard to dodge stage hazards if you get hit into them.

And about PS2's electric stage, yea there are platforms that don't move, but the treadmills make recovering harder. And the flying stage, it makes heavier characters, such as Ike, a tad over powered because they can knock massive amounts of damage into floating opponents because a lot of their heavier attacks are air attacks, making it much easier to KO opponents on top of making it easier for the heavier characters to recover.

And I DO know about the others with a "roaming" Final Smash, in fact, I know a lot of them are over powered. I point out sonic because Sonic's is incredibly fast and very powerful.

Fox/Falco/Wolf's is over powered because all you have to do is spin or shoot and you are almost guaranteed a KO.



I wouldn't say Pikachu's is great because it is kinda hard to control and isn't as strong as Sonic's.



Wario's is over powered because he can't be knocked back, he jumps super high, and his attacks get double power.



Marth's is an instant KO to whoever is caught in a combo or isn't prepared.



Link/Toon Link's stops anyone from recovering.



Zelda/Sheik's is an instant KO to anyone who is caught in a straight line.



Mario's is an instant KO to anyone that is too close to an edge.



Luigi's is practically a KO because it renders opponents useless.



Ice Climbers'(?) isn't a KO, but does enough damage to the opponent where it is an easy KO.

Banning characters would be incredibly controversial. We probably won't be banning any characters unless we get a ****-ton of new users from Smashboards for some reason who all just happen to be incredibly anti-Meta Knight. (and if they're Japanese they'll also be anti-Snake, but who keeps track of the international S-tier anyway?)

I think I might enter as metaknight and plank all day, just to be annoying. :3

I'd like to point out those stages are meant for counterpick. There meant to lean slightly on the haxxy side, but there still perfectly playable. All haxards are easy to avoid unless the opponent manages to get you in them, but its all fair, as your can do the same. I like to grab people when the lazor on halberd comes and wait for it. =p

As a side question, at what time will this tournament be held? I already know it will take place on the 25th of December, and since it will be during my winter break, I have a good chance of participating, but I need to know the time first.

I do not want a reply to this post, this is just a reason why I strongly oppose stages with stage hazards.

The reason I oppose them so much is because all it takes is one lucky hit to change the flow of the match. For example, as I was playing on Pictochat, both me and my opponent were down to their last stock. I thought I had the game in the bag, but I got hit into the piranha plant and that was game.

What I'm saying is, those stages are based more on luck - just like what Sunny said.
I want this post, to be the last post regarding stage hazards and why they are legal.

Hey kazzy, will you be using the counter pick method?

Ya know, loser of first round chooses the next stage? I can fill ya in on the details if ya want~!

when is this gonna be? i'd like to join, but i'd prefer that rainbow road wasn't allowed. it's unfair to characters with poor jumping abilities. and slow characters.

I think that counterpicks are too complicated to worry about for this, and that we should only be allowed to choose the "legal" stages that Zam has provided us with. Over Wi-Fi, it's too difficult for people to say, "Now we're playing on this stage since I lost!" often. Sure, I disagree with some of the stages that Zam allowed, but that really doesn't matter. If I'm put on an "unfair" stage, I'll just deal with it. However, all I know is that I'll be picking Final almost every time, regardless.

Also, the 29th or the 30th are the most reasonable dates to hold this tournament on, in order to allow the most people to be active then. It's better if we have the date up as soon as possible, so people don't make plans on our tournament day.

Ahh. I wouldn't know. I don't even have the Random Stage Selection unlocked, so I can't choose which stages I want random to pick and the like.

Oooh really? Omg I totally didn't know that! xD Haha, I was about to agree with amir until I saw that~! That makes it much less complicated~!

Also haaaaiiii banana boy~! Super glad your back for a bit again~! ;3

Ahhh anywho~! About the counterpick system~! Usually both players would choose from a "neutral" stage the first round. The nuetral stages include yoshi's island, final destination, battlefield and smashville~! Oh and in some cases delfino square. Whoever loses the first round is allowed to choose the next stage to play on. It can either be a neutral stage or a counter pick. The final stage to play on if theres a 3rd round is either decided threw stage striking (In this case that would be too complicated, so we'll just have each player choose a stage normally and let the computer decide who gets it to be fair) or countrpicking but i'll let ya be the judge of that.

Also you can modify the rules anyway you please to fit the tourney to your liking. Like I can see how some people wouldn't like having to pick neutrals the first round so if you want you can modify that rule and let the computer choose what person gets there stage, but again, up to you~! =w=

Oh then I probably can't do it.

Well, after much deliberation, the date of this tourney has been decided upon. It will take place December 29, 2010 at 12 Noon Pacific Time.

Sign-ups will open tomorrow.