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Poll: Which graphics do you prefer?

Old
13 22.41%
New
19 32.76%
No opinion
26 44.83%

Voters: 58

1. Alakazamaster said on July 8, 2010, 10:20:17 AM (-07:00)

Kyurem
2,366 posts

After hearing a bitter debate between Blues and LEAF in the Chatbox, I was elected to create a debate between the subject of old and new graphics! Which do you prefer, when playing video games? I myself do not have much of an opinion on the matter, since in my opinion they barely make a difference. There are amazing games with "bad" graphics, and terrific ones with more advanced graphics.

Opinions?

2. Pikaluv1 said on July 8, 2010, 10:22:23 AM (-07:00)

Volcarona
545 posts

Derp, why do everyone complains about it, I won't say new or old, I have no opinion.

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3. Eagles said on July 8, 2010, 10:26:58 AM (-07:00)

Haxorus
452 posts

I prefer old graphics. They always give me a better feeling in playing the game, for some reason.

4. Fubab_107 said on July 8, 2010, 10:31:04 AM (-07:00)

Shaymin
2,682 posts

I have no opinion because I have shared my own experience with bad graphics, good game and a good graphics, Bad game. But more people have a general vision that better graphics make a game better. I guess thats what I tend to see more.

5. BlackRayquaza said on July 8, 2010, 10:44:33 AM (-07:00)

Floatzel
182 posts

It matters on how old you're talking about.

If you're talking early 2000s as old, then old is good. But if you're talking before 1995, then there is a debate, there are some good and some bad.

But new graphics are much neater, but they tend to be hollow, and not filled with some type of gray or a different color so you don't get a glitch.

So, early 2000s as old, yes, I agree that they're good. And if they're in future games like Epic Yarn or Metriod Other M, they're pretty good, so I vote for that. So I'm not gonna poll, since there's no both, but I say both.

6. Jaredvcxz said on July 8, 2010, 10:51:28 AM (-07:00)

Giratina
3,185 posts

New graphics. Hands down. They're much more realistic (However way "realistic" applies to Pokemon) and otherwise easier to look at.

7. TheRagingTyranitar said on July 8, 2010, 11:05:43 AM (-07:00)

Regigigas
808 posts

I am voting for new graphics because I never liked old graphics :/

8. Ningamer said on July 8, 2010, 03:10:26 PM (-07:00)

Giratina
3,415 posts

Graphics...?

I don't care for graphics. As long as the gameplay's good, I'm fine.

Look at screenshot:
Embedded image
That's a fountain, when you're really close to it.
Now, those graphic's can't really compare to today's standards. However, this is one of the best games I've ever played in my life (The only one better that I can think of is it's sequel). As long as the graphics are able to tell you what it is you're looking at, (Embedded imageThat's obviously a pipe, and that's obviously a plant trying to nom) it's fine.

9. NismoZ said on July 8, 2010, 03:40:48 PM (-07:00)

Kyurem
2,014 posts

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ningamer View Post
(Embedded imageThat's obviously a pipe, and that's obviously a plant trying to nom)
You said it best. I don't care for graphics as long as I know what it is. If you just give me a few different pixels, *coughAtaricough*, I will mind, but if you give me a Embedded image, I know it's a guy trying to walk, and I'm fine with it.

10. Charizard98 said on July 8, 2010, 03:56:25 PM (-07:00)

Volcarona
732 posts

New, graphics have to improve, it's the future, you know. It just makes sense. But, a game with old or bad graphics doesn't make it bad.

11. Jaredvcxz said on July 8, 2010, 04:16:10 PM (-07:00)

Giratina
3,185 posts

Quote:
Originally Posted by Charizard98 View Post
But, a game with old or bad graphics doesn't make it bad.
I agree. In fact, games with bad graphics run better from a PC Gamer's perspective.

12. Sub-zero said on July 8, 2010, 05:37:31 PM (-07:00)

Regigigas
742 posts

This- Embedded image

Over this- Embedded image

Any day.

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13. Jaredvcxz said on July 8, 2010, 06:10:12 PM (-07:00)

Giratina
3,185 posts

This:
Embedded image

Over this:
Embedded image

14. LiteTheIronMan said on July 8, 2010, 07:19:20 PM (-07:00)

Shaymin
2,854 posts

Uhm.

Graphics of any kind are fine- it's the artist's medium of gaming to use graphics as the visual appeal for the player to view. Let's take a look at Mario, for instance.

Mario's appearance began because they couldn't program a proper looking face/clothing style into a typical arcade board. Later on, as the hardware improved, his features did. Obviously graphics are going to look better (and would be more appropriate) on newer hardware, right?

I kinda did this wrong, but the point is that as long as the graphics are appropriate for the console you play them on, and they match a certain artistic appeal that goes by the designer's direction, then they're great.

15. Sableyed said on July 10, 2010, 05:36:01 PM (-07:00)

Regigigas
999 posts

As amazing is 8-bit is, when I'm playing a game, I'd rather have better graphics. Unless it's on the internet, I suppose.

16. Jaredvcxz said on July 11, 2010, 05:00:52 AM (-07:00)

Giratina
3,185 posts

Yeah flash games are enjoyable at 8- or 16-bit.

And also, if I know the game is a classic like old pokemon or Final Fantasy, I will borderline enjoy the graphics.

Depends on the game really. Like if it's a racing game, I want the graphics to be the best so I can easily time my reactions and such.

But if it's a side scrolling shooter like metal slug, the low quality isn't a problem because there's not much skill involved.

17. mariothecellist said on July 12, 2010, 09:10:55 AM (-07:00)

Haxorus
360 posts

I could care less as long as they do not hinder the gameplay of the game.

18. alternateshadow300 said on July 12, 2010, 10:08:41 PM (-07:00)

Haxorus
454 posts

I voted "No opinion" because I don't base games off of graphics...

19. smartguy01 said on July 22, 2010, 01:08:33 PM (-07:00)

Mudkip
48 posts

I have no opinion because graphics in a game is not as important as the gameplay itself (it still matters, but not as much).

20. Jaredvcxz said on July 22, 2010, 02:42:10 PM (-07:00)

Giratina
3,185 posts

Quote:
Originally Posted by smartguy01 View Post
I have no opinion because graphics in a game is not as important as the gameplay itself (it still matters, but not as much).
True, but as we've pointed out before, sometimes graphics affect gameplay. But that's actually pretty rare, though.

21. Winter said on July 24, 2010, 09:55:53 AM (-07:00)

Charizard
106 posts

I grew up on the old school stuff so I am partial to that but I also like a lot of new school graphics as well. The more realistic something can look, the better.

22. Turtwig said on July 28, 2010, 05:43:05 PM (-07:00)

Haxorus
372 posts

Ok, some very good games like Zelda Ocarina have good graphic's even if it's old, not just because it's not clear but that's how it was before, Now I prefer the new graphic's since it's clear to see things.

23. Searinox said on September 12, 2010, 06:26:29 AM (-07:00)

Zoroark
251 posts

Gameplay and music beats are what matters to me. The quality of the media is less relevant. I enjoy both old and new titles. LOL Doom classics! I'm playing those now. XD That screenshot down there is from the level The Chasm. >>; *nerd*

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24. LucarioMario said on October 16, 2010, 06:00:28 PM (-07:00)

Volcarona
547 posts

As long as you can at least tell what the thing is its fine.

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25. pokemoneinstein said on October 16, 2010, 07:32:38 PM (-07:00)

Zoroark
279 posts

If it's a game that obviously needs sprites and nothing more, I prefer old.

However, if the game either NEEDS to replicate life-like motion, or just tries to for the hell of it, the graphics need to be newer and really good.

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26. JC said on October 17, 2010, 02:14:40 PM (-07:00)

Keldeo
1,021 posts

I like game play and over graphics, anytime, but so many choices to choose from.

27. Yoshizard said on October 17, 2010, 04:11:10 PM (-07:00)

Haxorus
360 posts

Quote:
Originally Posted by pokemoneinstein View Post
If it's a game that obviously needs sprites and nothing more, I prefer old.

However, if the game either NEEDS to replicate life-like motion, or just tries to for the hell of it, the graphics need to be newer and really good.
Me too, but I tend to find myself leaning towards older looking styles. You know, brighter colors, more artistic style. Less realistic.

28. [TRDRS]PokeTrader said on October 17, 2010, 04:58:02 PM (-07:00)

Celebi
1,413 posts

New for me!

29. Quadcentruo said on October 18, 2010, 07:35:43 PM (-07:00)

Giratina
3,684 posts

Just like TheGamingGoose said (if you don't know who he is, Youtube him), just because I liked the 8-bit graphics doesn't mean I want to go back to them for current games. (Something like that from his Megaman 9 rantview)

30. Dilster3000 said on October 19, 2010, 06:32:22 AM (-07:00)

Haxorus
314 posts

Well I really enjoy newer graphics. It was draw-dropping playing through Uncharted 2 or other games in that direction. I always can't wait what developers do next. How they tend to improve their technology.

On the other hand, retro graphics may seem ugly. But the gameplay lets you forget it and enjoy the game. Look at Pokemon Red/Blue or NES games, ugly graphics but the gameplay has a golden feeling. Look at what Capcom has done with the Megaman series, they are going back to the retro approach. Megaman 9 & 10 may not have the best up-to-date graphics, but the gameplay pushes that aside. Also memories come flying back. Its also great to see that Nintendo is reviving old games on the Wii, and older portable games for the 3DS.

Gameplay matters the most for me, I could look back to my past or just witness the beautiful graphics for today. But good graphics have influenced many gamers, meaning they judge games by their graphics. I find that stupid but I believe companies just should go for the better graphics. We can't hang back to the past, because our current consoles don't have the limitations that older consoles had. So they should go all out.

My overall point is, that graphics doesn't really matter. Sure amazing graphics and all get plus points. But the gameplay element is the most important.
(Not to forget music too )

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31. Quadcentruo said on October 19, 2010, 06:10:26 PM (-07:00)

Giratina
3,684 posts

Now for my opinion:
Although I like the old graphics - more specifically, 8-bit graphics - the newer graphics always manage to blow my minds with what they come up with.

8-bit graphics give me nostalgia, newer graphics blow my mind. I don't have a preference.

32. Will said on October 21, 2010, 02:46:12 AM (-07:00)

Zoroark
252 posts

Pokemon can be considered "bad graphics" compared to other Nintendo games like Mario Kart. It's still epic.

33. Jaredvcxz said on October 21, 2010, 11:54:26 AM (-07:00)

Giratina
3,185 posts

Quote:
Originally Posted by Will View Post
Pokemon can be considered "bad graphics" compared to other Nintendo games like Mario Kart. It's still epic.
I wouldn't really say that. While they could do more, the sprites for in-battle are very well done, and the attack effects are amazing, given the hardware. I'd say that the term to use outside battle would be "Classic".

34. Quadcentruo said on October 21, 2010, 11:58:00 AM (-07:00)

Giratina
3,684 posts

If you are going to compare DS graphics to console graphics, you deserve to be slapped (just saying).

For being on a hand-held system, Pokémon always seems to be on top of everything. The animations, sprites, and just for extra kicks - music, it seems more advanced than a DS game.
***For example, look at the cut scene on Spear Pillar on Pokémon Diamond/Pearl/Platinum.***

35. CrazyClaydol said on October 27, 2010, 03:47:47 AM (-07:00)

Joltik
11 posts

I don't care for graphics at all. Mainly Because all the 360 only fan boys shove "good" graphics down my throat when I talk about any Wii game. I have both the original Super Mario and the new one for the Wii. I play the original more though because it gives me nostalgia over when I was four and played it in my room.

36. MultiWishMaker said on October 27, 2010, 05:09:57 AM (-07:00)

Regigigas
836 posts

I can honestly say I really have no opinion on the subject. If a games that good to the point where you don't care about the graphics that makes the experience that much better.

37. Mr. Sub said on December 3, 2010, 01:23:56 PM (-08:00)

Mudkip
47 posts

Personally, I think old graphics are better because they require more imagination. Everything is unrealistic, and it's not clear what some small details even are sometimes. It looks different and kind of weird. However with new graphics everything is given to you on a plate, and there's no imagination required and with rubbish, pixelated old graphics you have to use your head more and I think that makes it more creative.

Also I just find old graphics really cool So yeah, old for me

38. JJ said on December 5, 2010, 04:45:43 PM (-08:00)

Charizard
127 posts

I love then both so much, I cant decide!! >.<

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39. LucarioMario said on December 18, 2010, 04:00:41 PM (-08:00)

Volcarona
547 posts

YET ANOTHER EDIT: I really don't mind, having played the 360 three times at my friend's house after school (And no, not just Black Ops. Though his game library is kinda small because he just got the console last Christmas, so the only other game I've ever played was Backyard Football.). Comparing Microsoft graphics to Nintendo's, the Xbox 360 has more "realistic" graphics, while the Wii's tend to be more colorful (Example: Compare Sonic Colors or NSMBW to a CoD game.). I now don't have a preference.

40. SK said on December 18, 2010, 05:24:20 PM (-08:00)

Giratina
3,238 posts

I'm saying new because I pretty much play car games and then Nintendo stuff. In my opinion each one looks better with the new graphics but playing with old graphics every once in a while doesn't hurt a bit. Except Pokemon generation 1 sprites are terrible.

41. RusticShadows said on January 3, 2011, 12:20:14 PM (-08:00)

Servine
54 posts

I view graphics as a secondary additive, and will love a game with older graphics just the same if it has great, solid gameplay. Same with new graphics. I fit has terrible gameplay, I won't like it at all.

However, based on graphics alone, I prefer newer graphics. I enjoy the awe-inspiring and streamlined feel it gives video games. It makes it easier for me to relate to a game, and feel like I'm actually in the world exploring, instead of a spectator controlling another character. Idk, I guess it's just my personal preference.

42. TM38 said on January 20, 2011, 05:32:24 PM (-08:00)

Servine
72 posts

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr. Sub View Post
Personally, I think old graphics are better because they require more imagination. Everything is unrealistic, and it's not clear what some small details even are sometimes. It looks different and kind of weird. However with new graphics everything is given to you on a plate, and there's no imagination required and with rubbish, pixelated old graphics you have to use your head more and I think that makes it more creative.
Dude, uhh...yeah. Because that....thing....that was Venusaur's back sprite was really allowing for an open mind. Plus, they varied too much. One picture, something's small and blue, and in the other games, it's huge and purple.

So, I like the new ones, although there are some in which I liked the older ones, like I prefer Latias' DPPt sprite to it's new one.

43. emperorempoleon2 said on January 22, 2011, 06:10:50 PM (-08:00)

Haxorus
439 posts

There's definitely something aesthetically pleasing about old graphics, but I personally prefer the newer polygon-based CGI.

Also, with this post, the most recent posts in the Fun board are all claimed by me

44. Jaredvcxz said on February 5, 2011, 03:14:33 PM (-08:00)

Giratina
3,185 posts

Well, I've been playing a few old games lately (Namely Thief II and the original Fallout) and despite being low-quality I can make out generally everything in them.

Plus we can't forget Minecraft, with its retro graphics that still push even the best systems.

I can't believe nobody has brought that up yet.

45. Buizel456 said on February 5, 2011, 10:54:05 PM (-08:00)

Haxorus
391 posts

No opinion. There are lots of games that have bad graphics but the game play is great, and vice versa. The graphics just aren't really important for me... Okay, well maybe a little. I just want to be able to make out the image.

46. Relix said on August 19, 2011, 11:17:25 AM (-07:00)

Cyndaquil
25 posts

Old graphics all the way SPRITES FTW!
Though good graphics are interesting to look at...

47. Ningamer said on August 19, 2011, 11:25:27 AM (-07:00)

Giratina
3,415 posts

It's not the graphics, it's the aesthetics. If I game has an aesthetics style that fits the sound and feel of the game, that's fine - Hence why Minecraft, while having low-resolution textures and low-poly models, still looks how it feels it should - blocky. Hence why Minecraft just doesn't feel right when using "realistic" texture packs. You don't say a cartoon looks bad because the grass is just a big green shape - It's like that to fit with the aesthetics of the show.

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