Yeah I found it quite enjoyable, except for the fact that Zoroark died, Celebi revives FTW.

oh dear.jpg

oh dear indeed

I added four more pictures. They are the last four listed.

This is my most favorite Pokemon movie for now! It was so cool and the best one yet! Now we all just have to wait for Victini & the Dark Hero!

I am officially very much disappointed at Cartoon Network. I seriously am.

We all know they miff the credits with an ad and put in too many of the same commercials, but they really went overboard this time.

The entire beginning of the movie wasn't aired. I knew it seemed weird not to see the "Pikachu the Movie" logo, and it makes sense now. I mean, seriously, YOU HAVE THE RIGHTS TO PREMIERE A MOVIE IN THE UNITED STATES, AND YOU REMOVE PART OF IT? WHY?! I really hope they air that bit on the Sunday showing.

I hate you, CN.

I muster up the small amount of tolerance I have to watch the anime on Saturday mornings.
...Rather, Sunday nights because I have the magic of DVR recording.

I hate how the skipped the end credits, I wanted to hear the English Version of Ice Cream Syndrome.

Lol at some of the image file names in that thread. XD (Go Long!)

According to Bulbapedia:

	
Quote:
	

	

		

			
				Ice Cream Syndrome is replaced as the ending song by a new piece titled I Believe in You.
			
		
	
	
Which means we didn't get to hear that either. 

Your right! No wonder that serebii.net summary didn't make sense.

I got home to catch the last 3/4. ^_^

I noticed something though: Is it just me, or does Zorua's giggle sound like Beavis and Butthead?

Hm, it does sound a little like them, but I still find it quite cute.

Speaking of sound bytes from other movies, the DP trilogy used lots of sounds from the Godzilla series, especially Mothra, for the legends.

Touching a Zorua's tail, while it's using it's Illusion ability of a human, is a win

Also, am I the only one who noticed that when Zorua is in a human form, it's butt twitches? O.o (maybe I just pay too much attention)

MIMA~!

Zorua's so cute in this movie...his voice just makes me want to CUDDLE WITH HIM~! But it was sad when Zoroark died...of course I knew Celebi would revive her somehow (I <3 CELEBI)

Some of Zorua's quotes are so cute...

"Then I was put on a flying boat!"
"Then, I fell off the boat."
"Mima's Mima!"

Also, like all Pokemon villains (save for Team Rocket, they;re just comic relief), Kodai was an a**. Pardon my language, but he choked Celebi to unconsciousness and threw Zorua on multiple occasions. He's a bad man! >:U (Quoting Zorua)

I also liked the animation for Zoroark's Night Burst. It was really cool.

I finally got to see the movie, and I gotta say that I love it.
Unlike other Pokemon movies I've seen, it didn't lose my attention halfway through the movie.
The plot was interesting and I loved seeing Zorua and Zoroark in it, :>

The one thing that bothered me was the way they pronounced Zoroark's name: Zoro-ork
I thought it would be Zo-rork.

Good movie, and the whole "mima" thing was cute. It showed a nice bond between a mother and her child. :>

Well, I thought it would be Zo-rork.
Cause of ZoROARK
And I always thoguh Roark was pronounced Rork.

Overall, I thought the movie was a bearable, slightly enjoyable experience.
I say that because of the entire opening being cut and the credits smashed and the commercials every 10 Arceus-damn minutes.
Oh well, if I can go to the B/W Mall Tour I'll be able to see the theatrical version.

Spoilers for the ending and introduction (along with my random ranting) follow below: Please consult a doctor before clicking Show Spoiler button.

I just watched the Japanese ending, and I must say I am now even more disappointed with CN for rushing through it. During the credits they showed everyone that Ash + co met along their journey, including all the gym leaders, members of the Elite Four, and Cynthia. Really made me think back though everything that has happened during the Diamond/Pearl/Platinum generation (both the anime and the games). I didn't really get the feeling of "Diamond/Pearl is over, onward to Black/White" from the last Sinnoh League Victors episode, but there was something about the ending credits for this movie that gave me that feeling. Thanks a lot for leaving us out of the last 4 years of Pokémon CN.



Oh, and I also watched the introduction as well. While I didn't understand what anyone was saying, it really does help explain the beginning events. Not only that, but it showed what the Pokémon Baccer tournament was (two teams of three Pokémon attempt to get a flying top into a goal) and that would have been good timing to show that considering this aired the day before the Super Bowl. Also remember that really cute scene where Zorua was reminiscing to when he was sleeping in Zoroark's hair? That was in the introduction also.

I'm just disappointed that I might never know the what happened in the missing parts or that I know that there are missing parts.

Cartoon Network cut the first ten minutes of "Zoroark: Master of Illusions" in the premier, much to the dismay of The Pokémon Company International, who did not give CN permission to do so. TPCi has since been in talks with Cartoon Network and future airings will have the first ten minutes in-tact.

Source: Bulbanews

Good. That pissed both me and my boyfriend off to find them doing that, especially when the first ten minutes held such detail to the actual BEGINNING of the movie itself!

TPCi weren't happy about the removal of the opening: http://bulbanews.bulbagarden.net/wik...work_movie_cut

Darn straight! I'm glad to know that The Pokémon Company was not happy to see the actual premiere of a movie ruined like this. It's embarrassing enough for them to see it like that, but...wow. More reason to hate CN.

I can tell Cat's going to be happy to see this...

CN has been mistreaing Pokemon for years. Not too long ago, the new episodes aired at 7 AM, which is one reason why I've stopped watching the anime until just recently. Finally, TPCi is stepping up and doing something about it. Now I hope they'd stop fastforwarding the credits (they still do that right? I haven't seen a Pokemon movie in a while...). I hate that!

They still fast forward the credits, which is something I hate, as well.

GOOD. >:U

Oh, hold on. Does the first 10 minutes plus the real-speed credits show up when they show it on the mall tour?

Oh nice, even Pokemon themselves were even disappointed with CN. Hopefully they also show the actual credits (though I doubt it since they seem to do that to everyone).

I thought it was weird that the movie didn't have any sort if intro. I assumed it started ten minutes early and my DVR didn't pick it up, but clearly not. What was their reason to cut the intro, anyway?

I noticed this too and it made me mad. I saw the Japanese movie where I was able to see the beginning but I couldn't understand what they were saying because I don't speak Japanese, so I was hoping to see and hear it in the American movie.

I'm not too concerned about the credits, but I'm glad the omitted introduction is going to be re-added. There were some things in the movie which needed an explanation, and the introduction had information regarding that.

I watched the movie just now. It was a great movie actually, unlike what Pokébeach said. The movie was good, and since I never knew about the cut scenes, I didn't notice that much of holes in the plot. The characters were well developed, and showed a good amount of maturity. I have to say that the antagonist was quite evil, mistreating Pokémon in a way that he was going to kill them! However, I have one major disappointment; they made Celebi SO weak! Seriously, it couldn't defend itself, not even against a Shuppet.

That's wonderful to hear, now this way the first time I see it (since I sadly missed it), it'll be the whole movie!

Wow, Cartoon Network sound like they suck. Taking out the start of the movie is like taking sprinkles off an ice cream. It's just wrong. Fortunately in the UK TPCI have given the movie to CITV, and ITV are good with movies.

Well, it's good that they're correcting that. They probably should have aired it to begin with. I haven't seen the Japanese opening, so it'll be a pleasant surprise once I do see the full opening.

I recently watched the movie and thought that it was quite enjoyable. I was wondering what the Pokémon Baccer World Cup was, and how Zorua/Zoroark got captured by Kodai in the first place, until I read the posts over here. When I had a look at the summarized plot of the movie in Wikipedia, I understood why you guys were mad. I find no reason for CN to remove the introduction, as it's not long and actually has useful background information.

I'm not going to critique Pokémon movies as if they're 'normal' movies, since the former usually tend to be more... I don't know, predictable or redundant perhaps? I can't find a good word to perfectly describe what I think of them, but that hardly matters. The bottom line is: Pokémon movies are especially supposed to be enjoyed, not analyzed. And the 13th movie does exactly that, which is why I think it was great.

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Spirit of Time I have to say that the antagonist was quite evil, mistreating Pokémon in a way that he was going to kill them!

Just watched it for myself a few days ago. If I hadn't heard about the cut scenes, I would have almost disliked this one, for the huge plot hole and lack of elaboration on events.

But other than that, awesome movie
I'm just wondering how a little Zorua can talk, but its matured mother cant. He HAD to have learnt to do that SOMEWHERE :S

edit: Also, relating to the cut bits. I just found out I missed out a scene that showed a player character (Ethan). /rage

I was mad when that happen.

Thread merged into the one we already have.

I blame 4kids, they suck. They ruin every english dub you can possibly imagine. CN sucks, but 4kids really messed up.

4kids didn't do anything wrong this time; it was all Cartoon Network. As AnathemA said, 4kids left years ago.

* double posts because it has been more then 2 weeks now * I was wondering, when will there BE future airings?

It aired in the UK last weekend, and by the sounds of things our airing was far better than what CN did in America. The network that aired our one was CITV, and they didn't cut the introduction or the credits, and kept every part in the movie. Plus there were ad breaks every 30 minutes rather than every 15 minutes, which was nice. CITV are nice. Then the following day they showed the first two episodes of Pokémon Black/White, and then showed no new episodes of it this weekend... I wonder when it'll actually begin...

I'm going to a Mall Tour stop in Lawrenceville on Sunday. I heard they have the full movie intact, including end credits, without commercials. (You know, like any normal movie theater would)
I still haven't seen the full movie beyond the first 15 minutes first 5 minutes after the opening part that wasn't shown on CN to keep most of the plot a surprise to me.

All in all, I thought it was a VERY good movie. I loved how it was one of those ones that actually got you to feel sad as hell when Zoroark died, and anger at Kodai for what he did simply to look into the future. Loved the ending, though. One other complaint is how CN cut out ten minutes of the movie that explained a lot of gaps. I read that they would show the show again, unedited, but, of course, they didn't [as far as I know].

For those of you within the US, tomorrow (4/16) at 5:00 PM, Cartoon Network will be re-airing the movie. Hopefully after the complaints TPCi lodged, the entire introduction will be shown (and if we are lucky, the credits).

Sweet, they actually did air the whole thing!