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1. Idno58 said on August 25, 2010, 12:14:38 PM (-07:00)

Landorus
1,770 posts

I think the nintendo of Japan should hold a contest that has people from around the world send in a bunch of Fanmade Pokemon and Gym leaders, and they take the Ideas they like and put them in the games! Then Nintendo won't run out of Ideas and the public will be happy for getting cool pokemon that THEY made!

2. [TRDRS]PokeTrader said on August 25, 2010, 01:15:37 PM (-07:00)

Celebi
1,413 posts

That would be pretty cool! I wish they would start doing that because I have hundreds of ideas to send!

3. Ningamer said on August 25, 2010, 01:32:34 PM (-07:00)

Giratina
3,415 posts

I love this idea. I've said it a few times before, and I'd like Gen VI to be made almost entirely of fan-made Pokémon.It could be great, as long as Game Freak are good at pickin'.

4. Alakazamaster said on August 25, 2010, 02:03:13 PM (-07:00)

Kyurem
2,366 posts

No see that wouldn't be a good idea because... er, actually, it's not that bad of an idea. Naturally they would only do this to a few Pokemon or maybe on Gym Leader, or else it would just seem like a game that the public made, and not one that is an original game. Plus people would just consider Game Freak lazy for only using other people's ideas.

5. Idno58 said on August 25, 2010, 02:04:38 PM (-07:00)

Landorus
1,770 posts

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Originally Posted by Alakazamaster View Post
No see that wouldn't be a good idea because... er, actually, it's not that bad of an idea. Naturally they would only do this to a few Pokemon or maybe on Gym Leader, or else it would just seem like a game that the public made, and not one that is an original game. Plus people would just consider Game Freak lazy for only using other people's ideas.
They've already made, what, over 500 original pokemon, so I think they deserve to make at least 20 or 30 or 50 from fans.

6. .name//Technomancer said on August 26, 2010, 03:58:44 PM (-07:00)

Haxorus
486 posts

That's probably the worst idea I've ever heard of since being a member of this board.

7. Idno58 said on August 26, 2010, 04:11:49 PM (-07:00)

Landorus
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Originally Posted by .name//Technomancer View Post
That's probably the worst idea I've ever heard of since being a member of this board.
Hah hah hah, there goes good ole' Techno bein' all contrary and Difficult, so, Thomas, what's your reason?

8. .name//Technomancer said on August 26, 2010, 04:33:42 PM (-07:00)

Haxorus
486 posts

:l

How about half of the population would vote in the cutesy, baby Pokémon in.

Oh, wait, even better.

Because Nintendo doesn't do that? It's a horrible idea. People have little to no imagination. I find it hard to believe that a game community greatly populated by children thirteen and younger than conjure even the slightest hint of an original Pokémon.

I don't want Gen VI being done completely by children. :l We'd have a swell of people trying to shove new types, moves, and bad combination into a game that's entire intent is fun gameplay, not "Oh, it's the one Pokémon I voted on!".

Worse, are the people who would try to incorporate specific type matches for comp play, and like the over-used Pokémon we already see in comp battles, they would be used nearly exclusively.

I can go on, but I needn't. It's a terrible idea, and I certainly hope Nintendo is much more educated than to consider a plan as poorly constructed as yours.

9. Idno58 said on August 26, 2010, 04:36:56 PM (-07:00)

Landorus
1,770 posts

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Originally Posted by .name//Technomancer View Post
:l

How about half of the population would vote in the cutesy, baby Pokémon in.

Oh, wait, even better.

Because Nintendo doesn't do that? It's a horrible idea. People have little to no imagination. I find it hard to believe that a game community greatly populated by children thirteen and younger than conjure even the slightest hint of an original Pokémon.

I don't want Gen VI being done completely by children. :l We'd have a swell of people trying to shove new types, moves, and bad combination into a game that's entire intent is fun gameplay, not "Oh, it's the one Pokémon I voted on!".

Worse, are the people who would try to incorporate specific type matches for comp play, and like the over-used Pokémon we already see in comp battles, they would be used nearly exclusively.

I can go on, but I needn't. It's a terrible idea, and I certainly hope Nintendo is much more educated than to consider a plan as poorly constructed as yours.
Are there any Ideas you find and WON'T make up anything that CAN go wrong and say it WILL and then call it a terrible Idea? Lets see you come up with something and see how we feel about it.

10. Ningamer said on August 26, 2010, 05:08:26 PM (-07:00)

Giratina
3,415 posts

The other half of the population would vote in the bad-ass Pokémon that we all love.

And I'm sure the people at Game Freak know what people want. If they got over a million entries they'd whittle it down to the best hundred-or-so. And then make them fair. And if you search the web a little, you'll find that Pokémon isn't a kid's game, and all the teenagers who play it have wild imaginations and come up with some great ideas. So shut up. >:V

11. Quadcentruo said on August 27, 2010, 08:29:14 PM (-07:00)

Giratina
3,684 posts

Quote:
Originally Posted by .name//Technomancer View Post
:l

How about half of the population would vote in the cutesy, baby Pokémon in.

Oh, wait, even better.

Because Nintendo doesn't do that? It's a horrible idea. People have little to no imagination. I find it hard to believe that a game community greatly populated by children thirteen and younger than conjure even the slightest hint of an original Pokémon.

I don't want Gen VI being done completely by children. :l We'd have a swell of people trying to shove new types, moves, and bad combination into a game that's entire intent is fun gameplay, not "Oh, it's the one Pokémon I voted on!".

Worse, are the people who would try to incorporate specific type matches for comp play, and like the over-used Pokémon we already see in comp battles, they would be used nearly exclusively.

I can go on, but I needn't. It's a terrible idea, and I certainly hope Nintendo is much more educated than to consider a plan as poorly constructed as yours.
Ok, let us start in the flaws in this argument.

Half - scratch that, all of the Pokemon fans should be smart enough to know that cute Pokemon just isn't the way to go. They would know what is and isn't cool.

If people didn't have imagination these days, what would happen to the future of games, movies, technology, etc.? Would it just be emptyness? Full of nothing special or out dated everything?

Gen VI wouldn't be made by children if Nintendo went with this idea. It seems to me you think children have access to all technology alive, especially computers. If Nintendo went with this idea, all of the people who submit ideas for Nintendo would be teenagers or older.

I don't think people would submit type combos/moves/etc. to Nintendo for competitive reasons. Mainly because a lot of people I know that play Pokemon never even heard of competitive battling. And even if they did, those ideas probably wouldn't make the cut.

That is all for my rant, I support Idno's idea.

12. Sableyed said on August 27, 2010, 11:30:45 PM (-07:00)

Regigigas
999 posts

Generally, I find that the creators of a work are better at making it than the fans. But in this case it might be a good idea, as long as they are VERY selective with their choices.

13. Ghastly_Gastly said on August 28, 2010, 01:05:33 PM (-07:00)

Joltik
13 posts

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Originally Posted by Ningamer View Post
The other half of the population would vote in the bad-ass Pokémon that we all love.

And I'm sure the people at Game Freak know what people want. If they got over a million entries they'd whittle it down to the best hundred-or-so. And then make them fair. And if you search the web a little, you'll find that Pokémon isn't a kid's game, and all the teenagers who play it have wild imaginations and come up with some great ideas. So shut up. >:V
You said it!

I think it's a good idea, but it's probably not going to happen. Nintendo would get flooded with ideas and they'd have a hard time picking the good ones out of the mess.

14. .name//Technomancer said on August 28, 2010, 06:23:02 PM (-07:00)

Haxorus
486 posts

None of you are thinking logically.

Even if, if Nintendo was abhorrently out of it's mind and decided to implement this, to give everyone a fighting chance, they would have to pull:

I) An internet-based voting system, wherein users from the interbutts can determine the Pokémon to be used in Gen VIII, wherein a flaw is apparent. People like me, and other less-crafty individuals, can enable an auto-voting system be it based on IP or individual e-mail address, therefore altering the votes catastrophically. Anonymous would have a hayday with this, submitting and voting in the most Goddess-awful Pokémon the world has ever seen en masse, with the only real way to cast votes legitimately being lost amongst millions of votes per day for a single, horrible Pokémon.

II) Gamefreak would allow internet-based submissions, whihc would be forwarded to their design team directly. Again, even if taken under yesterday, the amount of X-language-to-Japanese translation and sheer manhours to weed through the Troll-creatures in order to find the gems would still be immense. Not to mention this being the most time-consuming and financially-impacted method. And again, Anonymous would be all over this one too, filling to the brim Gamefreak's e-mail with horrible requests for terrible Pokémon. This method would involve Gamefreak having to consider all Pokémon inconsequential, and thus rendering all applicants useless.

Moreover, the submitters in question would have to sign their creations away, dream Pokémon of theirs would become rightful property of Gamefreak and Nintendo. They would capitalize on the creations of others with little effort. The legal and financial impact, not to mention the fanbase loss when Pokémon made by certain people not being edited into the new Gen itself. You're also looking at design changes, taking a basic principal of a fan-made Pokémon and tearing it up, reshaping it, slapping it back together, and calling it "fan-made".

And as a final kick in the nuts, the time-frame would have to be very narrow, or very long. Allowing applicants to send in ideas over the course of, say, six weeks would shut Nintendo down for some time. If every person who had an idea for a "new" Pokémon shoved their single, un-evolving creature in Gamefreak's face, you would see a wave of them sky-high, repelling unto Gamefreak's servers and home office. But wait, consider evolutionary families. But what if one applicant submitted more than one Pokémon? Then you're talking thousands of hours of work per employee, hired, contracted or otherwise. Again, financially, it would be a horrific mistake on Nintendo's part.

:l

Face it Idno: You just have bad ideas. Yes, they're cute and fun to dream about, but in reality, it's an impossibility.

15. Quadcentruo said on August 28, 2010, 08:39:13 PM (-07:00)

Giratina
3,684 posts

*sigh* again with the flaws.

1st. If Nintendo did this, and used an internet polling system, they could easily prevent bots from voting by simply adding a random code that a bot could not read. (such as those codes you see when you have put a lot of youtube comments on in a short period of time). Also, why did you say Gen VIII? Nintendo hasn't even released Gen V yet....

2. If Gamefreak were to use this idea, they would probably aim for later Gens of Pokemon (like Gen VI or VII) to give them plenty of time to search through the massive amount of submissions. Also, do you really think people will be evil enough to send just stupid submissions to completely screw Gamefreak?

3. Do you really think Nintendo and Gamefreak are evil enough to say "Hey, we are letting fans make our Pokemon!" and then say "Oh, by the way, ***k you guys."? I think Nintendo and Game Freak would be forgiving enough to let the good ideas through and not completely ruin them and make them go from fan-based to Game Freak's-editing-team-at-work.

4. Like I said before, if this idea were to ever be used, Nintendo and Game Freak would aim for something much later in the Pokemon series, like Gen VI or VII. I'm sure Nintendo and Game Freak have enough Pokemon ideas to last them another 1 or 2 generations. Why not let fans make some Pokemon? It doesn't have to be ALL of the Pokemon, but some of them.

I still support Idno's idea. And I support the fact that technomancer is a pessimist.


16. .name//Technomancer said on August 28, 2010, 11:38:16 PM (-07:00)

Haxorus
486 posts

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Originally Posted by Quadcentruo View Post
1st. If Nintendo did this, and used an internet polling system, they could easily prevent bots from voting by simply adding a random code that a bot could not read. (such as those codes you see when you have put a lot of youtube comments on in a short period of time). Also, why did you say Gen VIII? Nintendo hasn't even released Gen V yet....
Lol. Captcha codes are not hard to break apart. They're supremely easy to bypass. Anyone half-awake with macro scripts in front of them can keep these down.

Also, I meant Gen VIII because it'll be quote a long time until an idea like this is considered/implemented. Nintendo/Gamefreak would have to be utterly out of ideas or vastly desperate in order to sink this low.

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2. Also, do you really think people will be evil enough to send just stupid submissions to completely screw Gamefreak?
You obviously don't know Anonymous. Or the Internet. Stay oblivious, it's better for a fragile mind like yours.

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3. Do you really think Nintendo and Gamefreak are evil enough to say "Hey, we are letting fans make our Pokemon!" and then say "Oh, by the way, ***k you guys."? I think Nintendo and Game Freak would be forgiving enough to let the good ideas through and not completely ruin them and make them go from fan-based to Game Freak's-editing-team-at-work.
You also don't write the checks for Nintendo. You're not an economist, a financial adviser or consultant, and you're not seeing what I said earlier. Read my earlier post a little harder.

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4. Like I said before, if this idea were to ever be used, Nintendo and Game Freak would aim for something much later in the Pokemon series, like Gen VI or VII. I'm sure Nintendo and Game Freak have enough Pokemon ideas to last them another 1 or 2 generations. Why not let fans make some Pokemon? It doesn't have to be ALL of the Pokemon, but some of them.
See my post previous to this one, and the responses to the first and second quotes in this one.

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I still support Idno's idea. And I support the fact that technomancer is a pessimist.
That's fine. You have your opinions, regardless of how badly shaped or considered. And I'm not a pessimist, I am the opposite party in this thread. I am the voice of reason in a thread unchallenged.

17. RotomGuy said on August 29, 2010, 03:41:15 AM (-07:00)

Celebi
1,461 posts

Techno, my friends have awesome ideas for pokemon and so do i. I once made a Gyarados evolution with 4 arms

18. AnathemA said on August 29, 2010, 10:06:53 AM (-07:00)

Volcarona
521 posts

Im sure that idea has come up millions of times in GameFreaks mind, it would be the most logical thing to do, considering how like 50% of the older pokemon fans strongly oppose the new generations. I still wonder why GameFreak dosent do just that. :/

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