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1. Armed Floatzel said on June 17, 2010, 08:24:39 AM (-07:00)

Volcarona
491 posts

Just recently, a thread of mine was locked and called spam. I had no clue that it could be interpreted as spam. The Spirit of Time and I got into a heated argument about it and now I want to know what's spam and what's not, down to the last detail, so I can avoid making the same mistake again.

Spirit said that if I spam the debate thread again, I'll get an infraction, and I don't want one because of some thread which I was certain wasn't spam. Problem is that I don't know what's spam and what's not.

If someone could fill me in on all the details, I'd appreciate it.

2. SK said on June 17, 2010, 08:30:28 AM (-07:00)

Giratina
3,238 posts

What thread was it?

The real meaning of spam is supposed to be Stupid Pointless Annoying Messages..

3. Ningamer said on June 17, 2010, 09:19:03 AM (-07:00)

Giratina
3,415 posts

I believe you're talking about the thread in the debate board about your dreams. My opinion is that it should not have been locked, and is not. However, it's not really a debate, so it shouldn't have been in that board. Spirit could have simply moved it to General Chat, which would be much better in my opinion. Why he didn't is totally beyond me, you clearly put a lot of effort in to that thread. If I were a full moderator I would unlock and move it. Unfortunately, however, I can't. *Hint hint*

4. FreezeWarp said on June 17, 2010, 09:20:22 AM (-07:00)

Kyurem
2,186 posts

SPAM boils down to anything posted somewhere it shouldn't be. A post irrelevant to a thread is spam, and a thread irrelevant to a forum is spam. There is a spam forum, /b/uizel, where things aren't actually spam because they belong there.

For your particular instance, what you posted wasn't a debate, but just a general "yes/no/maybe". A debate is something controversial, something where you argue, where you are tempted to call the other person an idiot (or usually worse). Where you disagree or agree at your heart. Meanwhile, the "Nintendo" forum would have threads that are about Nintendo, nothing more and nothing less, and so on.

5. The Spirit of Time said on June 17, 2010, 12:09:54 PM (-07:00)

Rayquaza
3,934 posts

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ningamer View Post
I believe you're talking about the thread in the debate board about your dreams. My opinion is that it should not have been locked, and is not. However, it's not really a debate, so it shouldn't have been in that board. Spirit could have simply moved it to General Chat, which would be much better in my opinion. Why he didn't is totally beyond me, you clearly put a lot of effort in to that thread. If I were a full moderator I would unlock and move it. Unfortunately, however, I can't. *Hint hint*
I already explained to him that I don't have the ability to move threads. I already asked him to copy the thread and move it to /buizel.


Quote:
Originally Posted by FreezeWarp View Post
SPAM boils down to anything posted somewhere it shouldn't be. A post irrelevant to a thread is spam, and a thread irrelevant to a forum is spam. There is a spam forum, /b/uizel, where things aren't actually spam because they belong there.

For your particular instance, what you posted wasn't a debate, but just a general "yes/no/maybe". A debate is something controversial, something where you argue, where you are tempted to call the other person an idiot (or usually worse). Where you disagree or agree at your heart. Meanwhile, the "Nintendo" forum would have threads that are about Nintendo, nothing more and nothing less, and so on.
This explains my point. Thank you FreezWarp.

6. Armed Floatzel said on June 17, 2010, 02:01:17 PM (-07:00)

Volcarona
491 posts

Quote:
I already asked him to copy the thread and move it to /buizel.
It took me until now to realize that you weren't referring to future posts.

I may have misinterpreted what you said the first time when you said

Quote:
Make another one in /buizel section.
I thought you were referring to future posts at the time, that's why I got upset. I thought that you locked my thread and that was that, instead of moving it to where it should be.

By the way, thanks to whoever moved and unlocked it. I'll be sure to change the title discover that I can't change my thread titles on VR, while on other sites I can.

7. Sableyed said on June 18, 2010, 11:41:25 AM (-07:00)

Regigigas
999 posts

I have a question: To what point are we allowed to curse on the forums? Can we just censor it, or do we have to avoid it entirely?

8. Cat333Pokémon said on June 18, 2010, 12:18:25 PM (-07:00)

Administrator
10,307 posts

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Originally Posted by Sableyed View Post
I have a question: To what point are we allowed to curse on the forums? Can we just censor it, or do we have to avoid it entirely?
Cursing is one of the areas for which I have a difficult time laying down hard rules. In a truly "perfect" forum, nobody would see the need to curse unless quoting or within areas where it is encouraged. Unfortunately, that is not the case, and, because this is a Pokémon forum, I believe it is best for there to at least be a little bit of censorship on the words used. I don't think we need a calm discussion about EVs interjected by someone who can't get the ****ing pieces of **** to work, so he calls them every **** **********ing name he can think of.

9. Ningamer said on June 18, 2010, 03:34:09 PM (-07:00)

Giratina
3,415 posts

I don't think that thread should be in the /b/uizel board. It really should be in general chat, if anywhere. It's not spam enough to be /b/uizel-worthy, as it actually has some depth and is conversation-worthy. If it was something like "LOL EYE HAD A DREEM", then it should be in /b/uizel. But it's not. Case closed.

10. Jaredvcxz said on June 19, 2010, 04:09:04 AM (-07:00)

Giratina
3,185 posts

All my posts

11. James said on June 19, 2010, 08:57:36 AM (-07:00)

Volcarona
665 posts

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cat333Pokémon View Post
Cursing is one of the areas for which I have a difficult time laying down hard rules. In a truly "perfect" forum, nobody would see the need to curse unless quoting or within areas where it is encouraged. Unfortunately, that is not the case, and, because this is a Pokémon forum, I believe it is best for there to at least be a little bit of censorship on the words used. I don't think we need a calm discussion about EVs interjected by someone who can't get the ****ing pieces of **** to work, so he calls them every **** **********ing name he can think of.
There isn't a built in censor system within the forums? (Never noticed because I never swore here)

12. Jaredvcxz said on June 19, 2010, 11:00:25 AM (-07:00)

Giratina
3,185 posts

Quote:
Originally Posted by James View Post
There isn't a built in censor system within the forums? (Never noticed because I never swore here)
There is. What, did you think I would censor my own ****ing cursing? Hell no.

^That was meant as a demonstration of the censor feature, btw^

13. Cat333Pokémon said on June 19, 2010, 06:47:12 PM (-07:00)

Administrator
10,307 posts

Alright, I just cleaned up 7 posts from a rather short topic in General. The topic asks about names, yet half the posts were discussing fake names. As that is considered off-topic, that would be an okay example of spam (not the best, though).

14. Velociraptor78 said on June 21, 2010, 11:13:27 PM (-07:00)

Regigigas
803 posts

Spam: Opening a thread called HELP PLZ asking a question found on one of the other threads.
Not Spam: Asking a question ON a thread that relates to it.

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