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Pokémon Black and White → Generation Five's Legends: Better than God

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101. Pichu_theworld_ruler said on May 23, 2010, 01:25:15 PM (-07:00)

Mudkip
45 posts

Well, there we have it! A triforce!

I kinda forgot about that little mesprit thing though...

Oops,

-Pichu

102. Quadcentruo said on May 24, 2010, 01:45:11 PM (-07:00)

Giratina
3,684 posts

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pichu_theworld_ruler View Post
A triforce!
Yes,
Mespirit
Azelf
Uxie

They form a triangle and Dialga/Palkia is in the center.

103. Madhound26 said on May 26, 2010, 02:54:24 PM (-07:00)

Servine
66 posts

zoroark is like lucario in dp

104. OMGITSJAD said on May 26, 2010, 03:34:15 PM (-07:00)

Shaymin
2,490 posts

Quote:
Originally Posted by Madhound26 View Post
zoroark is like lucario in dp
They look similar, but a Pokémon you get as an egg that's Steel/Fighting type is way different from a Dark-type you get by a shiny beast event.

105. LiteTheIronMan said on May 26, 2010, 04:22:56 PM (-07:00)

Shaymin
2,854 posts

Well, when I said "Greater than God" I just meant Pokemon-mythology wise. Although stats would be expectedly higher I'm just throwing around theories about new legends.

Jees, this is my own topic and I haven't even checked it in so long.

106. Madhound26 said on May 28, 2010, 10:08:38 AM (-07:00)

Servine
66 posts

There hasnt been a bug legendary yet, It would be cool to have one.

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Originally Posted by OMGITSJAD View Post
They look similar, but a Pokémon you get as an egg that's Steel/Fighting type is way different from a Dark-type you get by a shiny beast event.
no i mean like lucario is in a movie and so is zoroark.

107. GreenLiquid said on May 28, 2010, 10:29:50 AM (-07:00)

Regigigas
881 posts

Alright, so we've seen at least some of the Gen V legends. Where do you think they fit in the series' mythology? Personally, I think that Reshiram is very angelic in its features. Maybe they could serve as messengers or something?

108. Ningamer said on May 28, 2010, 10:36:51 AM (-07:00)

Giratina
3,415 posts

Zekrom looks like it could be from some sort of ancient "magical" cave/ruins, possibly something deep underground.

109. OMGITSJAD said on May 28, 2010, 12:12:11 PM (-07:00)

Shaymin
2,490 posts

Reshiram looks angelic and Zekrom looks like a big dark mech.

110. Twilightwing said on June 12, 2010, 02:01:27 PM (-07:00)

Joltik
12 posts

I've made a design for a bug legendary (though it is part dragon). It isn't hard to make ideas for pokemon. I made about 200 ideas just in my algebra three class in highschool XD

Also some mind candy:
Peststingo- the pestilence pokemon (name made from pestilence and wendigo)
Stats: 83/125/82/100/87/123
Base Total: 600
Typing- Poison/Flying
Pokedex: Where it flies disease is said to spread. A lot of scientist tried to blame this pokemon for the black plague.

I came up with that idea in 15 minutes. It isn't hard to make a pokemon, just hard to make a GOOD and ENJOYABLE pokemon.

111. Dragiiin123 said on June 12, 2010, 05:25:35 PM (-07:00)

Haxorus
355 posts

Zekrom could be the monster released from the Zokromnomicon

112. TheAppleFreak said on June 15, 2010, 08:39:19 AM (-07:00)

Floatzel
187 posts

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shadow View Post
Oh yeah, one more point: I'd like to see legendaries that can be used for competitive battles.
Well, you already have stuff like Heatran, Jirachi, Celebi, etc. that's commonplace in the OU metagame. Chances are, there's going to be a new Pokémon that's useable in the metagame.

Maybe a simple regional legendary will work. I mean, Arceus created all of the Pokémon universe, Dialga/Palkia rules over all of time/space, the Weather trio rules over the land/water/sky, etc... but what about a legendary that just rules over Isshu? That would be a welcome change of pace from the bigger and better legendaries.

113. Sableyed said on June 16, 2010, 04:04:22 PM (-07:00)

Regigigas
999 posts

I honestly hope that the legendary pokemon in this game AREN'T more powerful than arceus. I hope they're just really powerful dragons with no ability to destroy the universe.

114. Emerald Joker said on June 26, 2010, 11:06:06 AM (-07:00)

Joltik
10 posts

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Originally Posted by KrayzeeGuy View Post
Late to the topic and most likely already said, but I find the theme in Pokémon Black and White to be hinting at the idea of an almost ying-yang scenario, which isn't far fetched considering the region this game hails from. Therfore Gamefreak is stepping away from the 'hierarchy' of legendaries, and focusing more into the depth of balance.

Personally, I think they have already introduced the legendary (Zoroark), or whatever pokémon Black version focuses on. Now most people now would say 'but it evolves'. However, my interpretation is that evolution doesn't mean it cannot be a legendary. Originally, we thought legendaries could not breed, but we have seen otherwise with Rotom and Manaphy (though Phione isn't Manaphy, it's still offspring).
Pokemon Black focusses on ZEKROM not Zoroak plus Rotom and Manaphy are pretty rubbish so not many people call them legendaries anymore......

115. SergeiDragunov said on June 26, 2010, 06:36:03 PM (-07:00)

Zoroark
249 posts

How do you top God? Easy.

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Ahem... Anyway. I want a Poison/Dragon legendary that can send out massive plagues and what-not.

116. kakashidragon said on June 28, 2010, 11:16:05 PM (-07:00)

Kyurem
2,045 posts

You forget the other god that might be made- SANTAN himself! Not really but maybe something like that to have the same strength as arceus at least.

117. Fly Guy 2 said on July 9, 2010, 12:58:34 AM (-07:00)

Charizard
148 posts

Quote:
Originally Posted by kakashidragon View Post
You forget the other god that might be made- SANTAN himself! Not really but maybe something like that to have the same strength as arceus at least.
Santan?

118. The Spirit of Time said on July 9, 2010, 04:09:59 AM (-07:00)

Rayquaza
3,934 posts

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Originally Posted by Fly Guy 2 View Post
Santan?
He means Satan.


Anyway, it is obvious now that the strongest legendary Pokémon of Black & White are Zekrom & Reshiram. It is now a fact that the story and the legendary Pokémon of Isshu focus on yin-yang and all the other balanced philosophies.

119. .name//Technomancer said on July 9, 2010, 05:16:56 AM (-07:00)

Haxorus
486 posts

Everyone here is forgetting something very important. A fact, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that has been overlooked by all...

Considering I'm probably the only Pagan member of this forum, it's understandable.

You don't top a God. That God has a brother, or a sister, or a son. A wife, perhaps, or, if you're of certain faith, husband.

I find it hard to believe that a single Pokemon is Overlord. I mean in no way to bring a subject-which-shall-not-be-discussed into play, but in real life, God is not the only deity to reside. Many Gods and Goddesses exist.

I, for one, reside by Mother Gaea, in part of my Earth Element, and as Gaea being my true deity in my mind's eye. This subject shall not be debated, as this is an improper thread to do so. But my point remains.

There is no single God. Multiples, yes. Singular, no.

I see in the future, multiple God Pokemon, holding each an element of the Pokemon world. Earth, Fire, Flying, Water, Darkness, and so on. GameFreak has not yet let me down in Pokemon Design. Well, that's a lie, Tangela's a mess [ xD ], but I doubt they would simply create the God of all Pokemon and leave it to that.

Another reason my hypothesis would be justified would be to look at the Golems. Nowhere in the "God" religions texts are mentioned massive bodies of pure element. These are more Norse and Greek than Christian. And what were the Norse and Greek in concerning spiritualism?

Pagan.

The same could be said of the legendary Birds, Dogs, and the Lake Spirits. Each has a discerning cultural feel influenced by faith and inspired by logic. I doubt GameFreak is anti-dynamic to the point of leaving Arceus as the only residing deity of the Pokemon faith and spirituality.

Unnecessary Addendum: Also, kakashidragon, Lucifer is not a god, per the Bible. Lucifer was an angel of God who, depending on which copy of the man-made Bible to which one deems correct, either opposed God in his choice of allowing Humanity to live with free will, or simply opposed God in his ultimate power. In the latter, Lucifer would question God's might, claiming that the Angels of God should deserve the same power he himself holds. God, being one to never answer a question directly or have to diplomatically resolve the issue, banished Lucifer and any angel who stood against God to the pits of the Earth, beneath the feet of the men Lucifer so despised.

It was thought that one's soul, weighed down by guilt, shame, and sin, would flow unto the Earth with one's blood, seeping into the soil and disappearing into the bowels of the Earth itself. It was by this idea that Lucifer hollowed out the Earth with his great hatred, making way for the souls that would drip beneath the grass and dirt above.

After conversing with many a faithfully-blinded Christian, Mormon, Catholic, and Protestant, they do not consider Lucifer a God, and by all rights, he is not. He is in fact an angel, and being an Angel and nothing more, he only has what powers God hath given, thus, he is only armed with the love of Man.

tl;dr: Lucifer, Satan, The Devil, ect... Is not a God. Due to texts predating one after another, Lucifer has already lost the war to wage on the Gates of Heaven, as God's power is absolute. This is a perplexing and hypocritical suggestion however, as man is tempted by Lucifer's evil deeds and his wicked temptations, or so goes the myth. This being said, it should be easy for God to dispatch and be done with Lucifer, thereby banishing any hope Humanity has of committing sins and therefore saving the human race. This in itself is perplexing, as God has not already done so, allowing Humanity and it's spiritual frailty to be so swayed by the subtle influence of Lucifer.

This is reasoning enough to question the truth; whether God requires Lucifer to gather tainted souls as to not sully the gates of Heaven and introduce Sin to the angels.

... Where the Hell did all that come from? It began as an explanation to debunk kakashidragon's mistakenly calling Lucifer a God, and boiled down to it's base elements: Religious diffusing.

Eh, I'll post it anyway.

120. SergeiDragunov said on July 9, 2010, 09:51:33 AM (-07:00)

Zoroark
249 posts

That was beautiful man. I couldn't have said it better myself. My best friend is Pagan (Wiccan to be precise). As for myself I'm an Atheist, but Pagan religion has always interested me. Good stuff.

121. Mijumaru said on July 17, 2010, 04:23:37 AM (-07:00)

Joltik
18 posts

I'd like to see Dragon and Steel.

122. .name//Technomancer said on July 17, 2010, 05:39:14 AM (-07:00)

Haxorus
486 posts

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mijumaru View Post
I'd like to see Dragon and Steel.
Yeah, because Dialga doesn't exist, or anything.

123. Quadcentruo said on July 20, 2010, 02:27:51 PM (-07:00)

Giratina
3,684 posts

What we need for a legendary Pokemon, is one that doesn't have any weaknesses. So far, the only one I can think of, type combination wise is, Ghost-Dark.

124. Masterge77 said on July 20, 2010, 04:37:17 PM (-07:00)

Charizard
141 posts

This Bulbanews article partly explains the legendaries: http://bulbanews.bulbagarden.net/wik...nerational_Rot

125. shinydalaliga said on August 14, 2010, 09:21:59 AM (-07:00)

Magikarp
2 posts

:banana::darkrai::latia slick::l ickpikachu::flaffylick::drago nslick::ho undoomlick:: munchlaxlick::mijumarulick::luxraylic k::honchkrowl ick::s kittylick::chiramiilick: :dragonitelick::suicune lick:how do you do gym battle

126. shinydalaliga said on August 14, 2010, 09:26:44 AM (-07:00)

Magikarp
2 posts

Quote:
Originally Posted by Quadcentruo View Post
What we need for a legendary Pokemon, is one that doesn't have any weaknesses. So far, the only one I can think of, type combination wise is, Ghost-Dark.
spritomb and sableye

127. RotomGuy said on August 14, 2010, 09:38:51 AM (-07:00)

Celebi
1,461 posts

Quote:
Originally Posted by shinydalaliga View Post
spritomb and sableye
i think he ment legendary. Infact he did.

We need a good Dark/Psychic legend. like a KILLA BANANA
:banana: vs :arceus:
:banana: wins!

128. Quadcentruo said on August 16, 2010, 07:59:44 PM (-07:00)

Giratina
3,684 posts

I got it! A legendary Pokemon with the type of Poison/Dark and the ability of Levitate.

129. 9.9 said on August 17, 2010, 06:37:55 PM (-07:00)

Joltik
15 posts

I'd heard this idea on a forum a while ago, and while I don't take any credit for it whatsoever, I must ask: what about legendaries that have to do with the seasons? I know there's already Shikijika, which already has to do with the seasons, but still. I like the idea, personally. ^^; It would lend to some pretty blah typings, admittedly (Grass, Fire, Ground (?), Ice), but I still thought that it was a good idea.

130. [TRDRS]PokeTrader said on August 17, 2010, 07:10:05 PM (-07:00)

Celebi
1,413 posts

Nintendo need to make a set of Lords or Gods of all the Type Elements, but Arceus is still supreme.

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