I've seen a lot of people here talk about what they like in B/W, but what about the things you hate about the games, what don't you like about B/W that dissapoints you or makes you mad?

For me, it's the fact that Zorua and Zoroark are event only and you cannot obtain them at all in game, even from an egg given to you, despite not being legendaries at all, that's the thing I hate the most about B/W. I also dislike the Pokemon Musical, as it is nothing more than a Super Contest without the third part that plays out like the Contests in R/S/E.

What's your least favorite part of B/W?

The games haven't exactly come out yet, so I don't think there is much I can really complain about...

I guess just the fact that you can't trade in Pokemon until you get the National Dex, so I'm stuck without using an Alakazam on my in-game team.

I didn't see the games yet, but I'm currently a bit disappointed that we're not getting any new (pre-)evolutions of existing Pokémon in this generation.

People, I know the games are not out yet, I just want to hear what you dislike about what is revealed about the games so far, not about the fact the game is not released yet.....

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Originally Posted by Jason_Henge Although that's a pretty big bummer, since we can't use our favorite Pokemon, it's not all bad. We get to start over, in a way, and make new teams with new Pokemon. It'll be like the first time with Pokemon again. :3 Even with a few minor cons in the game, there are a lot of pros to look forward to. However, I have to agree with Masterge77 about Zorua/Zoroark. It's not really fair to tease us with a Pokemon that's exclusive like that. But, then again, it is the Lucario of the 5th generation. We were lucky that we got the Riolu egg in the game... I guess Nintendo is branching out and focusing on those players lucky enough to live in a WiFi hub.

Anyways, I'm mad that after so long we still haven't had a dark type gym.

I'm not mad because it isn't even out. Though there are low points, they don't make me feel I need to be angry for them.

What I don't like is how overrated it is. I mean really, is it that much of a big deal?

I hate the fact that the games are 100% region protected which means you have to have a japenese DS

I don't like Pokémon Musical. I never liked the contests and I don't think that these musical contests will make any difference. I like the Pokéathlon more, as it was more entertaining. I also have to agree that having Zoroark as an exclusive is not nice at all. It just pisses me off, even if I don't like Zoroark. I also wished to have our Pokémon walking with us like in HG/SS, but oh well... Something I noticed is that I hate almost all the water Pokémon, except for the turtle!

Haters gonna hate.....

I know a lot of people hate the new Pokemon just simply for their design, but you should not hate a Pokemon just simply because of it's design.....

I prefer to put the Gen 5 Pokemon into one of four catergories (with examples of each catergory, in Pokedex order):

Pokemon that are clever and well designed:
Jaroda, Dekenki (yes, I like this one), Miruhoggu, Doryuuzu, Zekrom

Pokemon that are decent, but still good:
Yanappu, Zuruggu, Chillarmy, Denchura, Goruggo

Pokemon that blatantly rip off older Pokemon in terms of design:
Zoroark (Lucario), Mebukijika (Stantler), Emonga (Pachirisu), Mamanbou (Luvdisc), Kibago (Larvitar)

And Pokemon that are utter crap:
Otamaru, Yabakuron, Koaruhii, Baniricchi, Gear

I think that a good third of them are really cool, the rest however.....

So don't hate them just simply for their design, only hate them for what their stats are, or what moves they learn, not their design, as quality is not judged by physical appearance.....

1. Pokabu's evos are fire/fighting. That's three generations IN A ROW with a fire/fighting starter evo.
But I'm not saying the typing's bad. I actually like it. It's just getting really annoying that they keep using it.
2. Gear's evos are just Gear with extra stuff thrown in.
3. The flying legendary trio all have the EXACT SAME POSE, and two of them have the same stats and ability. They could have easily taken out two of them.
4. Zoroark is an event Pokemon. That's FIVE event Pokemon this generation.
5. The place where you find Munna is called the Abandoned Lot of Dreams. Wut.

Flying trio.
Nintendo have simply recoloured and changed the sprites.

D: This turned into a flame thread. How sad.

Masterge77 probably meant something else. He's not all there. You should see his rant in the chat. Hilarious.

Yeah, there's a big difference between expressing what you dislike and ranting about it. Try to act a little more mature than that in this thread please.

You know what I really dislike, too? The fact that MANY Pokémon evolve at VERY high levels! Examples: Jiheddo evolves into Sazando (the Dark/Dragon pseudo-legend) at level 64, Gigear evolves into Gigigear at level 49, and Baniricchi evolves into Baibanira (the Ice Cream Pokémon's final stage) at level 47!

I hate that we don't have it in America. I want to play it so bad.

I don't like that Minezumi looks like Bidoof with Blood-shot eyes.

I like them all except for Hihidaruma and Pokabu.

1.I don't like that Gear's evolutions are just Gear with a bigger gear surounded by a gear
2.REGION LOCKED!!!!!
3.Just like Blaziken and Infernape Enbouu is a Fire/Fighting

There's one thing I really hate about B/W. I totally forgot about it in my post earlier. It's that IT'S NOT IN ENGLISH YET!!!!!!!

lol, anyways, pokemon evoloving at level 64? BLASPHAMEY!

I like the higher evolution levels, they provide more of a challenge in the game, and allow me to use their pre evolutions for some time before I'm forced to evolve them...

What i don't like so far, is that there are no evolutions to already existing pokemon. EG: Mamanbou is not an evolution. Nothing that needed it, no matter how badly, got an evolution, sure they got dreamworld abilities, but its not the same.

The charachter design is a bit off IMO as well, especially if you notice the trends starting in generation I, Team rocket, was dark, and looked normal, with minor black outfits. Team Aqua and Magma weren't as bad as galactic in there funky outfits, and kind of could be seen as reasonable. Team Galctic looks flat out stupid, with there goofy space suits on, and team plasma looks unreasonable to begin with. The players design is ok, though, as does the professors design. I guess its just an opinion, though. Everything but fact is anyway.

Gear's evoloutions could have been better, and I sort of don't like the fact Zoroark replaces Lucario (Though I really don't mind, because it's an event Pokemon anyways. That and Fighting types pwn Dark types every time. :3) but in my opinion it looks like the best Pokemon game otherwise.

And on the topic of Lucario, this sprite is the most epic sprite I've ever seen in any Pokemon game.


EPIC

Seeing as I don't have B/W yet, I only have ONE complaint.

The fact that I have to wait till the spring of 2011 just to get either game... better start saving up my money....

Gear evolutions.
Combo Breakers (starter male has brown hair, female Professor.)

That's about it. I really love the high level evolutions. Challenges are great.

Mamanbou doesn't evolve from luvdisc and emonga doesn't evolve from pachirisu.
And that the high evolution levels, I wanted to use sazando in the E4 but i'm too lazy to train it to 64 by then.
That's about it.

I don't have a problem with gear, I actually like it and it's evolutions. Pokemon musical seems to be alot better than super contests. Team plasma are (in general) quite cool despite the terrible outfits that the grunts wear.

My one complaint that will be resolved when it comes stateside is that I can't understand anything in Japanese. [/sarcasm]

In reality, some of the transitions and animations appear sorta rough. When entering and exiting a building, for example, it cuts right to the actual place instead of fading in or out (not too big a deal). When I'm playing this on my Lite, some of the 3D rendering lags the game ever so slightly (once again, not too big of a deal). Also, the backsprites could use a little bit of work. In the default camera view, most of the backsprites are very pixely, though they do get better when the camera zooms out to show all of the combatants in a double or triple battle. To fix this, they could have vectorized the sprites for easier zooming (we'll probably see this in Gray). Also, if they could animate all of the trainer sprites in battle, I'd be a very happy man.

Also, even though I'm not sure how the Battle Subway works completely, I'm kinda annoyed that they removed the Battle Frontier. Besides, why not have the entrance to the subways in Hiun City (Grand Central Station, one of the largest subway systems in the world, duh?) and limit it to a post-game thing? That, IMO, would be better.

What disturbed me about B/W was how Monozu evolves into Sazandora at level 64, and Washibon evolves into Wargle at level 54. What the heck?

Another thing that I hate is how there is no Eeveelutions in Isshu. Aww, c'mon! There are 13 Legendaries (2 Legendary groups which make 7, Story Legendaries which make 2, third one may be possible, an Extra Legendary which may be the third Story Legend which is 1, and possible Event Legendaries, which make 3.) in Isshu, but no Eeveelutions?! D:<

Personally, I think Nintendo put way too much Legendaries in B/W and D/P/PT.

I dont like how you cant trade Pokemon back and fourth, you can only transfer them to B&W.

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Originally Posted by Masterge77 Pokemon that blatantly rip off older Pokemon in terms of design: Kibago (Larvitar)

Ok, seriously some Pokemon are just jfldkjflkdjal, not even joking. I mean look at Yabakuron *trash bag looking thing* I mean seriously....and another one....an Ice cream cone...this is a clue that their losing ideas...

I hate how they release it in english after the Japanese release.

The pokemon, In my Honest and Humble opinion, suck.

I do not hate anything else and do plan on buying the game eventually. (long complicated wall of text required for explanation of the inability to buy it on release day)

Honestly, I thought that the game could have a few more challenging battles. I personally shot threw numerous battles with ease, but I'd hope for a epic trainer of epicness with their Pokemon in the late 90's or higher. Don't get me wrong, I did have a few troubles with a couple of different trainers, but maybe it's just me who wants to put their skills to the ultimate test.

I dislike how in the Elite 4, you get to choose whatever order you fight them. It takes away the challenge of worrying how well you're Pokemon are once you get to the 4rth member and his pseudo legends. Other than that, the only thing that I'm not too fond of are some Pokemon designs. While Sazandra and such are great, creatures like the Poke ball mushroom thing makes it seem like the designers are trying too hard.

For the people who dislike the obvious Kanto parallels: Well, in real life, we have more than one time of cows, right? There isn't just one species. We also have more than one type of squirrel, lots of rodents, you get the point. So, I don't really mind how it seems as if they're just ripping off older generations. Except the Voltorb/Electrode to mushroom thing.

The only thing I don't like is Yabakuron, did someone in Creatures inc. discover this idea while cleaning up their room?

The pokemon sucked.90% of them either had bad base stats or a bad movepool or both

What I hate now is that the designs are "apparently" too crappy and/or unoriginal which make people hate 'em.

Ehh, haters gonna hate.

I couldn't catch an Eevee through normal means.

Can't wait for the english versions though.

Right now, what I hate the most is Oshawott and Tepig. The names are just awful.

I hate all the sparkly new HG features that were taken out, that the dapartment store barely has anything to choose from, and that you CAN'T REBATTLE ANY TRAINERS.
Plus, they're running out of ideas and are taking things from the MOTHER series(Compare Surf and Green Train)

Having some useful move tutors would be nice. All we have are Draco Meteor, lame moves for the starers, and two moves that can only be learned by specific legendaries. Kind of a let-down, considering how many tutor moves we had in HG and SS.

Bump?

I've recently discovered what I hate the most about Pokémon Black and White - the horrible Wi-Fi battles!

Firstly, there's no 6 vs. 6 option anymore. You can only have a maximum of three Pokémon in a single battle, leaving many strategies broken. On top of that, the elevation system is corrupt: if your Pokemon are under level 50, they will remain at their respective levels. If, however, they are above 50, they will be automatically elevated to level 50. That means either the battles will be unfair, or every person has to level up their Pokémon to level 50 at least.

Although Pokémon Black and White are the best Pokémon games ever in my opinion, the Wi-Fi battles are truly disappointing. If it wasn't for this, there would only be minor flaws which barely stand out when compared to the brilliance of the games.

I certainly hate this error code that pops out every time I access the GTS. I am not sure about it, but I think it was 13275 or something like that.

The Wi-Fi in this game is extremely dissapointing. They need more options for battles. The options they have now suck horribly.

Also, my only gripe with the in-game plot is how straightforward Unova is. It's a big circle, basically. Go through one route, you're to the next city. That takes away a bit from the "exploration" factor imo. Just to compare.

Hoenn:


Unova:


I dunno. To me, it seems more entertaining to have a lot of different ways to get places.

Black/White may be the best games yet, but there's always a cloud to a silver lining. My biggest complaint is just some of the designs. Pokemon like Cottonee and the female Unfezant just look plain awkward, some even horrible. another complaint, like many others have, is just that ZORUA AND ZOROARK ARE EVENT-EXCLUSIVE. I was forced to trade my friend's Victini (which he let me keep) just to get a lvl 1 Zorua.

I hat ethat they finally gave egg a back sprite and it SUCKS!

I hate that you can't catch any of the old pokes! There are barely 6 gen Vs I like enough to put in a team

As for wi-fi......just use Shoddy

What I dislike, extremely, is that they gave the Pokemon Japanese-like names, and names that are very laughable.

And I agree with you, I hate that Zoroark is event-only, since it is so popular it is almost unfair. I mean, events only happen once in a while, and when it's a Pokemon THIS much liked, it's almost 'mean', you know?

I HATE THAT NO MATTER WHAT POKEMON U CHOOSE-THE 1ST GYM WILL BE THE "BETTER" TYPE.
THATS A FREAKY IDEA.../:


BTW I UNDERSTOOD THAT THERE'S A WOMAN GIVING U A PAN-MONKEY AFTER LIKE 5 TIMES I FAILD

I don't really dislike much things about B/W, except that the map is pretty much straightforward as stated before.

Here's some stuff I dislike:

• Finally, after all these years of the games taking place in Japan, they decided this time around to randomly give a bunch of people Japanese names. In the only region in the main series yet to not take place in Japan.
• The fact that we have THIRTEEN LEGENDARIES and SIX EVENT EXCLUSIVES!
• The gym leaders/N/Ghetsis are too easy.
• You never battle 6 of the sages.

I started disliking one thing: you can't re-challenge gym leaders. Considering they had a major role in the story itself, it would have been much better if we could re-battle them again.

I don't really understand why so many people have problems with Zorua and Zoroark being event-only: You had so many chances to get them, what with the Gamestop events for a whole month and then the (worldwide) Wi-Fi events for a whole month. If you complain that you have no Wi-Fi, I'm sure there are plenty of hotspots within a 10-minute drive of your house. Plus, they're breedable, I'm sure your friend can get you one really quickly if you're that desperate.

The names of some Pokemon. I think Nintendo could have put more creativity into the names. Also I beat the game in about 5 days. I mean all of he story and thankfully never traded Pokemon over

I've gotten 5 badges so so far I've only been dissapionted in 2 things.

1 Clay was way to easy to beat

2 The region is to strait foward. It's to simple. To navigate the region you go up then you go clockwise. woo.

Other than that its great though.

Im sorry but, I cant find a fishing rod, I dont even think there is one in this game, so thats what i dont like. I can't find the fishing rod!

i hate that they aloud legends from previious games into wifi battles.

I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW MANY TIMES A FREAKING REGIGIGAS KO'D MY ROTATION TEAM

i'm talking about legendarey's in general. heatrean and many other pwnage legends were also aloud in wifi battles

im saying thats what i DISLIKE.

still, shouldn't you be aloud to use rehiram and other 5 gen legends if you can use legends like dialga and palkia?

A few complaints having been through the entire game now:

A slightly unfair jump in levels for trainers. This is fine later on after you've explored all of the Unova region, but I hate this trend since HG/SS of jumping the levels to 50-60 or higher when you've just beaten the E4.

Oh, and I miss the days where the E4 stayed at their levels and you could challenge them again at that level. Sure, it's a bit too easy, but I wish you could have better control over their difficulty, especially when training lower level Pokes (instead of Lucky Egg spamming with Audino). 40-50 is hard to level in combat against trainers (screw Exp. Share; I wanna fight).

The sprites really are a little ugly from the trainer pov. I mean come on, it shouldn't be so pixelated for the level of graphics. It still looks good in general, but the pixels always took me out of the experience a little compared to previous games.

The touchscreen's lack of usefulness. It downgraded to D/P functionality AND it lost the Pokewatch. I can't EV train as easily or keep track of eggs easily. The C-Gear seems a waste of space (should have been a Pokewatch function).

Clunky item system. Getting better with each gen., but it still needs more pockets to sort "equipped" items with "adventure" items for efficiency. It's hard finding my Max Repels when I have to sort through everything. Just give me a "search" function already.

Animations are still pretty simple in regards to attacks (some attacks look really weird like Dig). I expect more in the next generation obviously on the 3DS, but I was hoping for more this gen. Still, whatever PBR2 does will make up for it I hope.

I like most Pokes, but like others have said, poor sprites or lack of more evos was a bummer. Come on! Farfetch'd and Delibird are due an evo. Oh, and Absol for sure (even just a pre-evo; remember when those were cool).

And as a minor spoiler for after the game (hint hint, look away now if you don't wanna see), not knowing more about Ghetis and N. I have a feeling N will have more importance in future games (just a feeling), but what we found out from the Sages after the game was a bit disappointing (just that he's out there). N was set up to be really important so I hope we hear more about him and his journey with your opposing legendary.

Spoiler over.

That ought to do it for me for the most part. Nit-picking would be pointless (and even then I did a little already). Keep in mind, I still racked up 100+ hours on it.

Not enough grinding required for competitive battle; Real men(and women?) prefer to grind their pokemon up to level 100 1 exp at a time. Needless to say, not many real men do competitive battle.

Lack of VS Seeker. Rebattling trainers, especially the post-League ones, would make leveling a ton nicer. Lucky Eggs and high-level wild pokemon are nice, but you can't beat the higher XP and cash reward you get from a good trainer or two.

...Or six. I'm looking at you, Miles.

Horrible Wi-Fi battling system is all I can think of...

The removal of set level battles not only makes arranging fair battles harder, but also makes testing the IVs of freshly hatched Pokemon far more of a hassle. There is also the issue of the Battle Subway, and how you can't battle with someone over Wi-Fi, you can only battle complete strangers' teams over Wi-Fi.

Oh God how I dislike the Wi-Fi battling system in these games. Completely ransacking set leveled battles makes finding "fair" matches a little difficult, basically all what Ala said.
To add also, Pokemon really needs some more black people. It's not a necessity but the stereo-typical basketball players just don't cut it.

I hate the Dream World
I tried it out yesterday, I seriously don't see what the big deal is.
And the 24 hour waiting period or whatever, it's like the Pal Park all over again.

I hate how the Dream World is so slow! It took such a long time for the Pokémon to tuck in, and now it is taking a lot of time for it to start dreaming! :@

I HATE THAT I CAN'T EVEN USE MY ACCOUNT BECAUSE NINTENDO WON'T SEND THE EMAIL!